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Everyone has missed the boat
Reader comment on item: Arafat's Last Threat to Israel?

Submitted by Stephen Berman (United States), Nov 9, 2004 at 13:33

The trouble with the whole discussion is that both Jews and Arabs have translated their wishes into a Western idiom. They both claim that they want a State and Self Determination, echoing the Enlightenment thinkers' statement that "governments are instituted among men by consent of the governed.." etc.

The trouble is that Jews do not need self government. They just need to be safe from violence, and to return to their homeland. And Arabs don't need self government. They just need to stop the Jews from returning to their homeland, and to prevent any self government by non-Muslims under their jurisdiction.

That is what both groups really desire. For the Jews to reject this desire, would be to reject Judaism completely. For Arabic Muslims to reject their desire, would be irreconcilably contrary to Islam.

There is no way to compromise this issue, it is inherently irreconcilable.

So let's forget about the Englightened rhetoric, and deal with the two peoples on their own terms, in their own languages and idioms, without whitewashing or dumbing down the issues.

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Arafat and the U.S. [35 words]Muhammad SiddiquiNov 17, 2004 02:14
Lasting threat [83 words]Dan KatcherNov 16, 2004 09:04
After Arafat [81 words]Charles A. Lawson, IINov 11, 2004 15:20
Demand a Complete Destruction of Terror from Palestinians [193 words]Ross StevensNov 10, 2004 22:35
Saving things [158 words]Ilona MelstradsNov 10, 2004 21:03
Arafat's death [60 words]BobNov 10, 2004 18:05
It's not what Bush should do or say. [76 words]Tom PensylNov 10, 2004 13:20
False treaties of Hubidaya [41 words]denniswNov 10, 2004 11:48
Your article is full of wisdom and knowledge [71 words]Vincent MeijerNov 10, 2004 04:52
Consistency? [75 words]Yale ZussmanNov 10, 2004 01:48
Arafat is dead. Now, let's kill his myths [114 words]Salomon BenzimraNov 10, 2004 01:40
The Arabs in Palestine [183 words]Arlinda DeAngelisNov 9, 2004 17:15
Your article is exactly on target. [56 words]Frances SchwartzwaldNov 9, 2004 17:14
East & West Palestine [113 words]Hulegu KhanNov 9, 2004 16:31
Bush is vulnerable to his own vanity [113 words]Ray DavidsonNov 9, 2004 15:45
No Peace [44 words]Joseph ProsiseNov 9, 2004 14:46
Fairy Land [180 words]Brian LuxNov 9, 2004 13:57
Ominous Development [14 words]Sol ShalitNov 9, 2004 13:36
⇒ Everyone has missed the boat [172 words]Stephen BermanNov 9, 2004 13:33
The First Rule of Peace... [167 words]IsraelNov 9, 2004 12:57
Islam is the "fly in the ointment." [50 words]John BergNov 9, 2004 12:37
PLO leader: There is no Palestinian nation; it is an invention to destroy Israel! [208 words]Michael GreenNov 9, 2004 11:28
Time to Push for the Jordanian Option [72 words]Michael GreenNov 9, 2004 10:42
Arafat was just a part of the problem [292 words]Kenneth S. BesigNov 9, 2004 10:10
Jordan [50 words]Jonathan UsherNov 9, 2004 09:01
"Palestinian Arabs" [50 words]Ruth D. ShapiroNov 9, 2004 08:43
A Scary Thought [165 words]Peter J. HerzNov 9, 2004 08:26

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