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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Mar 25, 2009 at 21:21

Mr. Mohammed, making assertions ... writes:

"Mr Infidel: You cannot stop spreading of Islam ....."
I don't need to stop the spread of Islam - that will happen automatically because people are becoming aware of its true nature - not the idealised and sanitized version your tunnel vision allows you to see.

"....because people who think like you and Dhimmi are a small minority."
I'm flattered I've been singled out for special attention. Did I hit a raw nerve when dared to criticise some of your preposterous beliefs in a previous post?

Your tunnel vision also doesn't let you understand that Dhimmi and I are two completely different individuals. We do not come from some generic anti-Islamic mould. We have totally different outlooks, abilities, societal conditioning and viewpoints and cosmoslogy. We just happen to concur on one point - that Islam is regressive - and especially so for the West. But haven't you noticed - virtually everyone on this forum holds similar viewpoints - for different reasons. And in the wider world there are hundreds of millions who agree - for hundreds of millions of reasons.
And none more so than from people who have had to put up with large numbers of Muslims and deal with being a 'kufr' in Muslim regions - such as non-Muslim Indians, Chinese Malaysians etc etc
Sorry , but as time goes on I'm afraid that the number of dissenters will grow enormously as the true nature of the beast is exposed and its aims become widely known. And as for your expectation of a rapid spread of Islam in the West - except for amongst a few losers with the misfortune to have Islam on their list of stops to make in their spiritual window shopping - do you really think that most westerners could possibly end up believing such things as they should enter a toilet with their left foot and exit it with their right foot in case Shaitan gets to them? And that a 50 year old guy who waits 3 years before he gets to sleep with a nine year old - is some sort of person to emulate? We have enough of our own heroes thanks who've contributed a LOT more to humanity than following the dictates of their unbridled priapism.


"The real powerful people running this country , whether liberal or conseravtive, love islam. "

Making idiotic statements undermines whatever credibility you thought you had.

"Last President Bush and current predident Obama have repeatedly endorsed islam. "

As you have no been brought up in a real democracy I can understand your lack of ability to perceive the real intent of politicians. Politicians have the need to obtain votes because they want to maintain their hold on power and money. Therefore politicians tend to brown-nose those sections of the populace that they need to in order to obtain those votes. But having said that - making utterances about Muslims along the lines of 'live and let live' certainly does not constitute 'endorsement'. You should get a dictionary.

"Europe , whose leaders fully endorse Islam....."
We certainly cannot rely on you to make truthful statements ,can we? Have you been following what front bench members of cabinet of places like France, Denmark, Norway and other states have said - which totally contradicts your statement? And that is only what is said publically - by those who have see no reason to fear stating the obvious. If you could see the private thoughts of many others in politics I know you'd find no encouragement. That's not to say you never hear some multi-cultural pap from those attempting to curry favour in order to consolidate their power base. And putting aside what the leaders say - take note of what the poplace thinks - because this wiull eventually be reflected by those same politicians. I have yet to meet personally ANY Eurpoean who actually has good things to say about their country's involvement with Islam. It ranges from a tolerant 'laissez faire attitude by a few to the more common statement that they wish they'd all leave - to outright hatred in some cases. And this is from people from countries from Norway, Germany, Denmark, Croatia and Bulgaria. Why is that? Why do even Russians have similar sentiments?

"will be under divine sharia law in forseeable future."
Nothing divine about it at all. The only people I can see besides Muslims who would want that would be sado-masochists. There's a thought - perhaps Muslims ARE sado-masochists.
Oh, when is the 'forseeable future" ?

"Holland Govt is taking Geert Wilder , their own parliamentarian to court to punish him for badmouthig Islam. "
No - some butt-licking politicians backed by Muslim constituents from places like Rotterdam are taking Wilders to court because he dared to exercise his right to free speech and dared to state the obvious. People don't go to court to get 'punished' as you stated but to sort out a dispute - criminal courts are where 'punishment' is meted out - or don't they make that distinction in sharia?
If you saw 'Fitna' did you have any objection to it? The blanket statement that it holds up a mirror to Islam thereby criticising it does not count. Also , if you have not even bothered to exercise your own freedom to view it - don't bother quoting what somebedy else said.
I noticed you didn't point out that Geert Wilders is a democratically elected parliamentarian - that's a bit of a problem for you isn't it? And his popularity in Holland is growing rapidly. Ever wondered why?

"You saw how he was , booted out of England right from the airport by the fairminded brits "

Technically, as he had never crossed the red line at immigration at Heathrow - he never made it in to Britain so he was never booted out. The fairminded Brits are the ones who would have let him into their country. The gutless sycophantic bureaucrats who disallowed his entry into the UK actually broke the EU's Schengen agreement by not allowing a citizen of an EU member state free passage into another EU state when there was no legal impediment for that citizen to do so. (i.e. was not a criminal). It was a capitulation on the part of bureaucrats and people like George Galloway who have no principles or motivation other than to maintain the status quo. Rather than showing UK Muslims that free speech was not just an inherent right for such lowlifes as the venom-filled Sheiks Anjem Choudary and Omar Bakri - who actually DO incite hatred for non-Muslims in their speeches from within UK borders.

By the way , you forgot to mention that the UK actually has barred several illustrious non-EU Islamic clerics from ever visiting the UK again. Why was that do you think?


,"........whereas few days later they welcomed an Alqueda leader with open arms. "

And you think that is a good thing?

But then again - you're the silly little man who wrote: " He visited Allah on 7th heaven flying on Buraq, a flying horse with beautiful female face. If all that is not a proof of his prophethood, then I do not know what is. "

How dare we question the loyalties of Muslims in our midst.


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