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The Truth about Islam is hard to digest.

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Submitted by Caesar M. Arevalo (United States), Jan 22, 2007 at 22:36

I may not know a lot about Islam, but what I know is enough as to make an assessment about Islam. What do I know? I know that the terrorists who crashed the twin towers were educated Muslims who prayed to Allah and died screaming Allahu Akbar. I know that Muslims in Iran stone women caught in adultery. I know that Christians in Saudi Arabia have not the same rights as Muslims do. I know that Muslim Arabs are committing genocide against the defenseless people in Sudan. more than two million people massacred in the name of Islam.

You asked me if I read about Islam, the answer is yes and that knowledge comes from Islamic sources and former Muslims whom you Muslims call "apostates." That way they treat former Muslims says a lot about the so-called religion of "peace."

You said that I should not mistake people traditions with religion. The problem with this claim is that it begs the question. The real question is what is the difference between people's tradition and religion? There is no difference at all. The truth is that Islam is a religion made up of a variety of other religious traditions: Zoroastrians, Christians, and Jewish. I am sorry, but the Quran did not come from Heaven. That is the crude truth.

The warrior Mohammed borrowed from the Hebrew and Christian scriptures plus traditions from pagan Arabs and Zoroastrians to create the Quran. It is Mohammed who invented verses like:

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216,

We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve 3:151

Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 4:137

Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5

Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:8

Slay the Idolaters wherever you find them

9:5

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15

These writings are not coming from Oriana's book, it comes from the heart of your prophet Mohammed. However, the Quran is not the only one that speaks about murder, intolerance and violence against non-Muslims. The haddith and the Sunna also portray the "lovely" and "peaceful" character of the warrior Mohammed in a way that would make Hitler and Saddam rookies.

Regarding to Oriana, unfortunately she is no longer with us, but she was a real hero and brave woman. She spoke the truth about what Islam is doing to Europe: A regression to the stone age

Finally, as the great Assyrian Peter BetBasoo said in a letter to the CEO of Hewlett Packard, Carly Fiorina:

"Arab/Islamic civilization is not a progressive force, it is a regressive force; it does not give impetus, it retards. The great civilization you describe was not an Arab/Muslim accomplishment, it was an Assyrian accomplishment that Arabs expropriated and subsequently lost when they drained, through the forced conversion of Assyrians to Islam, the source of the intellectual vitality that propelled it. What other Arab/Muslim civilization has risen since? What other Arab/Muslim successes can we cite?"

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1Equivalence between the Mosque in Cordoba and Church in Damascus [306 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
PrashantJun 3, 2017 08:50239434
Thanks for questioning my comment [78 words]PrashantJun 5, 2017 22:19239434
Hypocrisy stinks [155 words]PrashantMay 7, 2015 00:53223207
Provocation [43 words]AlbertE.Apr 18, 2015 11:29222942
4The great Church of St Theonas in Alexandria was converted to a Mosque [165 words]dhimmi no moreApr 18, 2015 08:40222936
stick to your knitting [27 words]cvtApr 14, 2015 15:27222858
1Microscopic Islamization in Turkey (which quickly adds up to become macroscopic) [128 words]PrashantNov 29, 2013 15:17211919
1Many Jews Are Dhimmis [39 words]DaveSep 17, 2012 10:33198741
New Amsterdam, New York, New Cordoba [796 words]mythAug 6, 2010 17:19176429
mosque on a top of Temple Mount [21 words]AlexanderJun 22, 2010 13:36174667
A mosque in cordoba and a cordoba near ground zero. [180 words]PPSMay 11, 2010 02:04172539
In Allah we trust [35 words]b soetoroApr 11, 2010 09:29171189
Church in Tribal lands of mohamed !!! [80 words]Muslimk***Apr 21, 2010 04:00171189
In Allah we trust part 2 [81 words]b soetoroApr 22, 2010 23:41171189
Quoting a great comment I've read about this elsewhere: [20 words]huckApr 6, 2010 04:18170989
1will they reciprocate ? [52 words]HMApr 5, 2010 12:52170962
1What is a mosque really? [108 words]G.VishvasApr 5, 2010 07:51170952
bravo G.Vishwas [126 words]Muslimk***Apr 6, 2010 16:22170952
A mosque is where you leart to prey [31 words]cancerarianApr 6, 2010 20:09170952
1to muslimkush [238 words]G.VishvasApr 7, 2010 03:57170952
The uncivilised civilised the civilised [48 words]Civilised.Apr 15, 2010 14:46170952
you be liberal, let them be invaders; have you been taught that? [67 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh BharatPanthiMay 4, 2010 06:22170952
HINDU numerals [146 words]JIMJFOXApr 20, 2015 12:22170952
1The Church of the Umayyads in Damascus [812 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2010 10:02170933
to DhimmiNoMore [14 words]ASApr 6, 2010 05:21170933
The Church of the Umayyads in Damascus part deux [110 words]dhimmi no moreApr 7, 2010 16:47170933
3In islamists countries, Jews, Christians, Hindus are not safe. [91 words]Phil GreendJul 7, 2009 10:51158566
3Christians,Jews,Hindus,Sikhs and Buddhists are not even safe in Non Muslim Countries with Muslim Communities [107 words]RahulApr 5, 2010 08:28158566
and before it was a mosque . . . [124 words]MarcusApr 11, 2007 09:5189021
Cordoba's not originally a mosque [76 words]gus3Mar 19, 2007 20:4887018
Reciprocity is a good way [31 words]FarrukhFeb 4, 2007 04:5675882
1Free Trade In Religion [48 words]Robert TFeb 6, 2007 12:5475882
2Extreme Hypocrisy [54 words]Abdul KhanJan 9, 2007 08:4772150
1Stop the Cordoba mosque [78 words]OctavioJan 3, 2007 20:1271586
The invaders demolished a cathedral and built the mosque over it [39 words]AnaJan 6, 2007 03:3871586
New Spain was built on Muslim foundations [216 words]SARAHJan 22, 2007 09:4071586
1Al Andalus was built on Roman and Visigothic foundations, luv... [1077 words]GlennodadJan 23, 2007 19:5671586
to Sarah - so where did the moors come from in Spain? [42 words]ASApr 12, 2010 07:3971586
1Stop-Please. [154 words]Maura CollinsJan 3, 2007 12:0071532
1How about the temple mount [64 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDJan 2, 2007 17:3171455
Well said, Yuval [158 words]EileenJan 6, 2007 16:3371455
for an interesting solution to the temple mount [7 words]EileenJan 8, 2007 18:3771455
Reciprocity is the backbone of civility [89 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Dan GoorevitchJan 2, 2007 14:2371431
Hagia [28 words]Lu An LiApr 18, 2015 11:2471431
getting blood out of a stone looks easy compared to this [36 words]David W. LincolnJan 2, 2007 13:3271426
1Mosque comes from Mask [198 words]Abu NuwasJan 2, 2007 09:0871416
Houses of Ill Repute [242 words]clarence puckettJan 1, 2007 23:4971396
Mosque = church = synagogue [56 words]Steven LJan 1, 2007 21:1671390
how about in israel [81 words]ralph shapiroJan 1, 2007 19:0471371
Lest we forget... [37 words]J. MackJan 2, 2007 14:4471371
Oh! Europe [156 words]Caesar M. ArevaloJan 1, 2007 18:0471363
...Taking advice from Oriana..well that says it all.. [129 words]SarahJan 22, 2007 11:0471363
The Truth about Islam is hard to digest. [585 words]Caesar M. ArevaloJan 22, 2007 22:3671363
Cesar,You are wrong!! [475 words]SarahJan 28, 2007 08:2371363
MUSLIM IN DENIAL ONLY PROOF THAT THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM IS HARD TO DIGEST [903 words]Caesar M. ArevaloJan 29, 2007 23:3971363
djskl [64 words]jaffarApr 27, 2008 02:4171363
Islam: Religion of Hate [757 words]CaesarApr 28, 2008 03:4771363
why muslims think their religion the only religion without knowing other religion in depth [143 words]shashi sandhuApr 6, 2009 20:5671363
I do not understand your thoughts [62 words]CaesarApr 8, 2009 12:3371363
What about personal responsibility ? [287 words]DavidJan 1, 2007 16:2471348
Total agreement with tenor of postings - but........... [272 words]David CampbellJan 1, 2007 15:3571341
How about the Temple Mount? [38 words]Zvi LandoJan 1, 2007 15:1871336
Church goes Mosque goes Cathedral [16 words]Paco SantaellaDec 31, 2006 08:2871222
To Paco Santaella [12 words]Inna (Tchkah)Jan 2, 2007 02:4471222
think small - is reciprocity an option? [267 words]jDec 30, 2006 08:3771126
Is thinking about other cultures as children an option? [10 words]Dan GoorevitchJan 2, 2007 15:3571126
PS [6 words]Dan GoorevitchJan 2, 2007 18:1871126
think small Reciprocity, give and take is the backbone of civility, not just take [76 words]jJan 3, 2007 08:1871126
Good idea [134 words]SafrazDec 30, 2006 02:4471095
safraz ... as always [19 words]susanJan 11, 2007 10:4371095
Another idea [72 words]Peter HerzDec 29, 2006 22:4471087
Reciprocity and accountability [102 words]No DhimmiDec 29, 2006 10:2371008
"No Dhimmi" is right. [364 words]Ynna(Tchkah)Dec 29, 2006 22:0571008
Yes, Ynna!!! [130 words]JaladhiJan 4, 2007 10:3871008
To Jaladhi [388 words]Ynna(tchkah)Jan 5, 2007 02:4471008
to No Dhimmi - Cordoba and Haga Sophia are not the same [20 words]ASJun 14, 2010 07:0271008
The pagans of Mecca [184 words]dhimmi no moreDec 29, 2006 07:5070995
reciprocity [65 words]jon purizhanskyDec 29, 2006 06:2270991
what about other churches [111 words]VijayDec 29, 2006 04:3070983
Hindus praying in Mosques? [62 words]Romesh ChanderJan 1, 2007 15:3370983
With Muslims, its always a one way street, don't ever expect anything back from them. [401 words]JaladhiJan 2, 2007 15:2370983
why muslim downgrade other religion [49 words]shashi sandhuApr 9, 2009 21:2470983
One religion only. [8 words]Civilised.Apr 15, 2010 14:4970983
How about reciprocal rights also to.......Jews? [121 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
MosheDec 29, 2006 03:5170976
Dr. Pipes, a small clarification. [139 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
MosheJan 2, 2007 14:3770976

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