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Proof is in the Belief - Thousands of Believing Sons of Jacob Cannot All Be Wrong

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in response to reader comment: If Yeshua was the messiah, he'd have proved it

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Sep 15, 2014 at 19:25

It would be so easy to concede to your admission that the Moshiach would match your allegations and be so dismissive of the prophetical markers that He did fulfill at His first advent, which by looking at the record of the Sanhedrin, His fulfillments of the initial prophecies were the basis of their allegations to send the Nazarene to the Romans. But your list missed many of the prophetical markers that convinced the first believers (not originally called Christians, by the way), that He was indeed the Moshiach, the first several thousands of them being Jewish believing in the Jewish Moshiach. They were the ones who believed the Tanach and the fulfillments of more than 300 verses; which were not random at all.

Your list contains many of the markers of messiahship that are both first and second advent, a confusion that pervaded the time of the first advent. It also misses the passages that many Judaic observers tend to dismiss, Isaiah 53, the follow-on to chapters 47, 48, 49 and 52. In this, His proof was in the fact that He did take on the form of a man in order to be the perfect sacrifice to end all sacrifices. His shed blood replaces the shed blood of lambs as well as a all the wonderful fulfillments you describe in placing Israel in the center of the world's new worship center, the Temple, where He will reside as LORD of Lords, King of Kings. I could go on, but would you take notice?

In your last statement [If he had really been the messiah, every single Jew would have noticed and no one would doubt it], read the Torah and notice in key places, that the character of His being the seed of a woman (note, not the seed of a man, even as He is called the San of Man), not until He made known His power to perform the will of His Father did he run afoul of the religious elite and draw their ire, for they were not willing to believe the Scriptures concerning Him at His first visit. From the very beginning of His mission, they sought to silence Him, a process that continues to this day.

You call for proof; yet you call for the same proofs that the people of His first visit called for; and in the same vein they were not satisfied. Why is that? What are you willing to believe? The Tanach (?): everyone one who observes the validity of the Tanach, even as this believer believes, reads of the wonderful promises being fulfilled today, all of it based upon the finished work of HaMashiach at His first visit. Israel is being rebuilt this day, even in spite of the terrible hatred being poured out on her, for one reason and one reason only, to the glory of the Eternal Father, Who is preparing the world for the return of His Anointed, Son of David; Son of Man (Psalms 2, and 110).

In the final analysis, He did prove it; what is required is to believe it. The proof is in the belief.


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