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Debanjan, greetings from the real world

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Submitted by Jeff (United States), Feb 14, 2012 at 13:24

My "Answer" … Does that mean that the Native-Americans are allowed to teach their children how President Andrew Jackson destroyed their inhabitants and uprooted them from their territories ?

Yes.

Are the Arabs from Iraq allowed to teach that it was the America-inspired sanctions that killed 100000 Iraqi babies from 1992-2003 period ?

Yes.

Are the Iranian-Americans allowed to taught their children that it was an American president who overthrew the most secular leader Mr. Mossadegh in 1953 thereby killing any chance of popular political participation in Iran till 1979 ?

Yes.

Regarding La Raza's demands , what is wrong that to let the Hispanics know that the states of Texas , California and Arizona were actually their original inhabitants till the Anglo-Saxons snatched it away from them in 1848 and Mr. Lincoln supported the war aims in general ?

We all learn about the Mexican American war in history class in school, we're all aware that that part of Mexico north of the Rio Grande River was ceded to the USA at the conclusion of the war. It's not a secret; anybody can talk about it and anybody can have an opinion.

My "Answer" : America has got the biggest share of prison populations per capita in the whole World. And the majority of the prisoners are actually non-Anglo Saxons i.e. African-Americans and Hispanics. So is this the country of freedom ?

I wonder why there are so many non-Anglo Saxon people rotting in prison in a country which is supposed to be the "land of the free" ?

I'm not sure what this has to do with immigration. Yes, we expect all citizens and guests to follow certain laws, don't kill other people, (that includes your own children, we don't follow Islamic law here) don't steal other folks' stuff, don't blow up crowded airliners, buildings, public places, etc. People don't exactly rot in American prisons; they're sent for a set amount of time, after which they're released. Many are released early for good behavior in prison. Prisons offer drug rehabilitation, vocational courses and college courses. Every prison has a library and a chapel. All prisoners have lawyers. One of your heroes, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, will soon be back in court, to argue against his sentence of life in prison for attempting to murder 289 people.

My "Answer" : Ohh so why Bradley Manning is behind the bars dear sir ? He was also researching the history of US involvement in Iraq and elsewhere and willing to share his knowledge with the rest of the America and World. So why is he behind the bars ?

Bradley Manning is behind bars because he stole secret documents and released them. It's called treason. Are you really saying that, in India, if a soldier breaks his oath, steals and releases secret government documents, the Indian government thinks that's just OK? Really?

My "Answer" : I guess you feel proud for the pilgrims and the group ld by John Winthorp.

??? What does this have to do with my Indian neighbors?

Now please tell me what law did they follow when they landed in what is now America and displaced the sons of the soil i.e. the native Americans?

I know this may come as a shock to you, Debanjan, but the American Indians, whose tribes were busy warring upon and killing each other when those horrible Pilgrims arrived, actually did not have immigration laws in place in 1620. (Or maybe it was budget cuts that forced the Indians to happen to have just closed their Department of Immigration and their Border Patrol, and the Pilgrims were just lucky.)

I wonder your views on illegal immigrants do not include the pilgrims and the Puritans. I guess I know the reason. You consider them as special if not exceptional since they were from Anglo-Saxon background right ?

Wrong.

Regarding access to any history book in your country , are you allowed to read Howard Zinn or Noam Chomsky or Gilad Atzmon ?

Yes, yes and yes.

I guess you probably have never come across the work these people have done. Then you probably would not have said anything like this.

Wrong yet again. Books by all three authors are available at my local bookstores, at my local free library, and at Amazon.com. To listen to you, one would think Noam Chomsky is rotting in a secret prison. In fact, he is a multi-millionaire who lives in a very comfortable home outside of Boston and is a full professor at MIT, where he has lectured for over 50 years. Your questions (which you call answers) demonstrate a stunning ignorance of the country about which you claim to know so much. Relative to you, I would sound intelligent and informed if I asked you if there have ever been Bengal tigers in India.

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