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in response to reader comment: Wow!!! That is the problem, Dawud!!!

Submitted by D Beale (United Kingdom), Jul 8, 2009 at 07:01

"Everybody now enlightened to be better human.."

so can I get this right. You are saying EVERYBODY is now good except for muslims? Because last time I checked there are many horrendous people in all cultures. What about rapists and peadophiles? Is that enlightened? I grew up in england where people like to get drunk and violently attack each other for fun at the weekends. Sexual Diseases are spread everywhere and 50% of marriages break up. Many men have children and then do not want to see them. Society is very bad. To say this is enlightenment is ridiculous.

Your problem is that because your mind is exposed to so much anti muslim propoganda and you are literally being BOMBARDED with news reports of any little thing a muslim does (and the press very often include teh word MUSLIM althought they dont do it with any other religion) that you think muslims are out causing more problems than any other group but unfortunately you are wrong and I can attest living in "civilised" england that crime is running rampant and there are MANY bad people living here.

"But look at islam now? It is the only religion in this millenium, in massive number still holds the DARK SIDE, by hating other people just because of different religions. Of course other religion still do it too, but it decrease in number, even in much much smaller scale.. not growing number like group in muslim world. But in islam? Look how this dark side in the past still hanging in muslims mind? Not even get better but get worse??? Even make excuses for the past events? Hating other religions just because the past!"

coudl you care to provde me evidence of this "statistical growth" in the "muslim dark side"? Or maybe this is just your perception of things because the press exposes you to more bad stories of muslims. Can you tell me that when walking through a muslim country that every is bad and horrible? I can gaurentee if you actually bothered to talk with muslims you would see tehre are many great people in my religion.

"Christians, of course nobody deny that they had dark age, but look at them now? Still do it? Noooo!!! Mean sthey changing"

well its hard to say what "christians are doing" because all christians are different. Europe is predominantly christian yet they invade afghanistan and iraq and do all kinds of bad things. But I refuse to blame christianity for this because you are all individuals and all held to account for your own actions and not what other people who haooen to be in the same demographic as you are doing. As I have said in my country peoples behaviour is not good but that is because they have become "secular" and lost the teaching s of Jesus (Peace be upon him) and Im sure this was once a great country before we decided to let kids go round doing what they please. But the muslims in england are like the christians of 50 years ago, the christian women wore hijabs, were faithful to their husbands, you could trust everybody, it was better times (or so I hear from my elders).

"but how about massive group of muslim? They ingfect each other to hate others for the past and nonsense reasons!!! War??? facist? Dictators? Where they are now? In Europe or USA, people can make the president to appologize, even they make the leader to step down.. but in muslim world? No way! There are still huge numver of dictators in muslim world!!! I am sorry to say, islam world still in the view of millenium ago, when others still in dark age.. That is my opinion.. sorry!!!"

So can I get this straight. You are saying that we as muslims have put those dictators there ourselves and like them and support them and believe in this kind of government? It is the west who support these dictators. Saddam Hussein was supported for the west for many years before they over through him (killing hundreds of thousands of iraqi's in the process). It was america who trained the taliban and gave them weapons and support for years before over throwing them (and killing thousands of afghani's in the process) and barak obama recently visited the egyptian dictator, it was the west whop supported the shah, the dictator of iran. You argeuments are laughable and I suggest you take a non biased look at the political situation in the world before making such ridiculous comments. The west is enjoying prosperity because they became rich from slave trade and colonialisation. How else do you think the west is so rich even though they ahve such minimal natural resources and hardly any manufacturing base. It is the islamic way that dictators are to be removed but while the west provde teh muslim worlds dictators with support we cannot remove them to have our islamic state and I know that you do not want a united islamic state so go on supporting dictators because God will hold you to account for this but do not talk as if its our own fault we have dictators as if we actually want these crooks running our government.

"My friends are good muslim, they agreed that many group of muslims are just have no reason to be violent except for greed of power.."

My friends are good westerners, they aggreed that many western governments have no reason to be violent except for greed and power. So congrats we are in a similar situation and maybe you can appreciate that in teh same way I know not all englishmen support the invasions of muslim lands for oil, you can appreciate not all muslims support suicide bombings (in fact not even 0.1% if you acually bothered to get to know muslims and see what they think)

"They said, such group of muslim (not all) want to rule the world using their own believe way.. which never give space to other to live..."

Just like america and england are doing now then. You dont want my islam. We dont want your capitalist liberalism. We'll keep shariah out of the west when you keep your political system outside of our lands (seeing as thats one of your excuses for invading iraq and afghanistan, to bring "democracy").

"You want the fact, look at Iran now... lies everywhere... a bunch of Iranian just want little freedom, but what they did to their own people? Then in the return they lies to their own people that the problem is not in government problem but to other countries problem.. what the big lies!!"

Iran is shia and we do not even consider them to be muslim nor do we support their governments interpretation of Islam so I cannot speak on their behalf. But seeing as teh west HAS meddled in iranian affairs to the point where the people over through the western backed government I think they have reason to be suspicious.

"Anyway, still I do believe there are many good muslim, good christians, goo dhindus, goo dbudhism, good atheis, exist in earth.... in the end we will be a global citizen and global religion anyway... so please let we accept each others as it is, in positive way... Thank you"

Ok tahts fine I have no problem with people of other religions and I always try to be friendly and polite, even if people do not return the favour when they hear that I am muslim. Peace

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