Submitted by Taimur Beg (United States), Jan 9, 2006 at 22:28
The problem with this French guy, IMHO, is his baseless fear. Because a quack harms his patient in some way does not mean that it's the fault of Science. Understand? Otherwise, millions of Muslims - even very religious Muslims - living in the States for example would have done the same thing - shut themselves instead of becoming doctors, nurses, engineers etc. You will *always* find a small minority doing something absurd - are you going to look into their minds and do a root cause analysis and fear ramifications of every thing they believe in?
The scheme is absurd because you have to take individual temperament and stupidity into account. Some things are explicity disallowed in Islam - yet Muslims do them. Are you going to point towards Islam once again? That was my point regarding the teenager analogy.
No one is saying that there is nothing wrong with Muslims. Yes, there is. They need to change. But when you say " Isn't there a potential threat to western society ?" given Muslims are seculding themseves, I laugh. For that stretch to work, one would have to believe in what you are saying. My apologies - but you will have to give a solid argument before anyone starts believing in the "profound meaning". Fortunately, most educated people and balanced people will actually continue to ignore what you are probably trying to get across (one of the complaints of the learned author, remember?).
In my posts, I have pointed out only flaws in logic by illustrating how the arguments are flawed. I have refrained from shifting the blame. When I spoke of Hindu influences, I didn't say that there is something wrong with Hinduism - but that the influence of Hinduism on some people makes them do something un-Islamic (NOT something immoral or evil or bad) - hence if you catch these people doing an activity (not necessarily Hinduistic or Islamic), are you going to talk about Islam too? The focus should be on the foolishess of these people, rather than on Hinduism or Islam etc. If you think that Muslims as a group are a problem, I'm afraid that's the same logic Hitler was employing.
I brought up Hindu influence to give an analogy, and I'm afraid you thought that I was blaming other religions or ideologies or glorying their religion -- I wasn't, if you read carefully and without prejudice or fear. Sans courage and intellect, even an earthworm would appear as a snake. No one is saying, 'let us not be cautious' - but only that at the very least, don't create further misunderstandings between the two civilizations.
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| Does it make sense? [84 words] | HA | Aug 19, 2007 12:47 |
| Unbelievable [137 words] | Ishan Almazi | Aug 11, 2007 18:57 |
| ↔ Protection for women [149 words] | Oswald | Aug 18, 2007 10:17 |
| Human values ?? [52 words] | tom norton | Jan 9, 2006 14:27 |
| ↔ Be courteous to your Creator [83 words] | Hisham | Apr 11, 2006 13:04 |
| To prove the case, throw in the whole thing [69 words] | Taimur Beg | Jan 9, 2006 07:37 |
| ↔ Stop Pointing others !! [122 words] | Fraz | Jan 9, 2006 15:42 |
| ↔ Read carefully first, then comment [123 words] | Taimur Beg | Jan 9, 2006 16:16 |
| ↔ Reply to Taimur Beg [111 words] | Tom Norton | Jan 9, 2006 16:50 |
| ↔ You are missing the point Taimur [123 words] | John Giannasca | Jan 9, 2006 17:13 |
| ↔ you didn't understand !! [455 words] | Fraz | Jan 9, 2006 19:56 |
| ↔ Re: Taimur Beg's misconception [131 words] | Kafir | Jan 9, 2006 20:55 |
| ↔ U got it all wrong Mr.Taimur [186 words] | Aumprakash reddy | Jan 9, 2006 21:42 |
| ↔ ⇒ An example of the problem before us [439 words] | Taimur Beg | Jan 9, 2006 22:28 |
| ↔ bad logic as usual [130 words] | Taimur | Jan 10, 2006 10:15 |
| ↔ as usual blame others for your problems...typical [239 words] | Aumprakash reddy | Jan 10, 2006 17:03 |
| ↔ To: reddy [207 words] | Taimur | Jan 11, 2006 11:20 |
| ↔ to taimur---dont justify unjustifible [179 words] | aumprakash reddy | Jan 11, 2006 17:57 |
| ↔ Clarification [310 words] | Taimur | Jan 12, 2006 02:05 |
| ↔ Taimur Bug grow up now !! [231 words] | tom | Jan 12, 2006 14:32 |
| ↔ u dont get it do you [320 words] | Aumprakash Reddy | Jan 12, 2006 18:18 |
| ↔ A small minority doing something absurd you say,Mr. Beg? [492 words] | Little Hammer | Jan 6, 2008 14:11 |
| why not sending him back to Arabia? [210 words] | bruno, IT | Jan 9, 2006 03:17 |