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Liz Wagner: There is nothing rational about the Semitic Gods!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 20, 2020 at 15:43

This post is for Kuffar/non believers/skeptics/ and heretics only. Now you have been forewarned.

The Semitic root D-Y-N is a very old root and it goes back to Akkadian Denu and it is Din in Hebrew, ܕܝܢܐ in Syriac/Aramaic, and دين in Arabic and the primary meaning of the root is: "Law and judgment" not something called religion. This was a later construct. More? Books and laws do not drop from the sky. They are man/woman made laws covered with the illusion that these laws are made by a creator or creators.

The tribe of Israel watched and emulated what the older civilizations of Mesopotamia have been doing for a very long time and not unlike the Code of Hammurabi they created their own version of how to live at a point in time. It is a case where men created the law and claimed that it really dropped from the sky!

>Rabbi Lord Jonathan Saks said in A Letter in the Scroll about the Book of Genesis: "G-d speaks, and the world comes into being. G-d is not in nature, but above it, transcending it and ordering it according to his word. Nature has no will, or set of wills of its own.... If G-d created the world, then it is, in principle, intelligible.

This claim could very well be true. However the Gnostics tell us, and it makes lots of sense, that there is nothing rational about this creation with wars, famines, genocides, pandemics, sickness and death. And that the one that created this creation is a poor and ignorant creator be it the ethnic God of the Jews, or the Tribune God of the Christians or the Arabian God. And there must be a real God who is detached from this poor creation and he sends his aeons (the likes of the Christ) to get human beings to know about the real God and seek him (Preserved in the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas).

Should we believe the rantings of the one God thing that caused so much harm to humanity? The answer is no. And why would the one God be the only God of a small tribe of human beings and not of all of humanity? Care to explain?

There is a famous story from Tafsir al-Qur'an by al-Tabari of Q112:1 and it is Surat al-Ikhlas and to be blunt it was plagiarized by Muhammad from the Aramaic Peshitta Mark 29:12 and it is the "Hear Israel" preserved in the Aramaic NT and still retaining the Syriac grammar in the Arabic text with the Hebrew word Ekhad (One).
So al-Tabari tells us that the Jews asked Muhammad the famous Aristotelian question: If Allah created this creation then who created Allah? The Jews living with Muhammad must have been rather familiar with the profound Greek logic. This profound question refutes any hope that monotheism makes any sense. It is clear that those Jews must have been saying that they have one God and that is the God of the tribe of Israel and it does not matter if the pagans have one or more Gods. So much for universal monotheism.

>If G-d created the world, then it is, in principle, intelligible.

Are you serious? This world is a catastrophe! Go and tell let us say the Yazidi women that were raped enslaved and killed by the Muslim terrorists of Da'esh: "If G-d created the world, then it is, in principle, intelligible." they will think that you are and you must pardon me out of your mind

>The mists of irrationality [of the polytheistic world] have been dispelled."

I wish that you can tell us in your own words why is monotheism good and polytheism bad? I keep asking Muslims and I never get an answer

You need to read the brilliant story of Isis, Osiris, Horus and Set. You will realize that what human beings face is a struggle between ORDER and CHAOS. Order means how to live and to live in harmony and chaos would be the disasters that human beings face every day. The Gods don't die and this is why the evil Set (most likely the etymology of the word Satan) does not die although he was defeated by the redeeming/golden son Horus who has his eye plucked by the evil Set and he gives his eye to his aging father Osiris so he can improve his declining vision so he can restore order and defeat chaos

Polytheism is a far superior and tolerant idea than the plague I call monotheism

And remember that these so called holy books were written by human beings and they did not drop from the sky! Example: The P Tradition!

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