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Tovey: The crossroads of Arabian imperialism: Muslim Mobeds, Aramaic the language of the people on earth, and the outcome in 9th century Mesopotamia

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 26, 2020 at 06:59

You wrote:

>Having brought about the idea that the ancient Aramaic tongue of the ancient scriptures makes all of this more in focus: who knew!

As was mentioned before, the great Iranian Shi'a religious scholar, 'Ali Dashti and author of "23 Years" which is a very critical examination of the life of Muhammad, came to the conclusion that 70% of the very early books of Islam were written by Persians, the likes of al-Tabari, al-Zamakhshari, the grammarian Sibawayhe etc.., and they shaped Islam by bringing with them the learning of the Iranian Mobeds (Zoroastrian clerics) et voila we have Islam and a thin patina of Arabism, but deep inside it is shaped by the Muslim Mobeds who must have viewed their Iranian culture as far superior culture when compared to the desert culture of the Arabian invaders. The people of Iran had to make a decision, either to be Muslims and Arabic speakers or Muslims and Persians speaking their language and linking with the glorious past called the Persian empire. It must have been the great poem by Firdawsi (The Shahnemah) that was written in Persian and not Arabic, on purpose, that led to the outcome we have now. Iranians opted not for the language of Allah but for their language and culture. It is rather sobering when you read the early Muslim Arabs making it very clear that they do not trust the "sneaky" Persians! And old civilizations are not conjured away.

Now, the early Arabs must have felt that if they don't distance themselves from Aramaic/Syriac and 'impose" what was to become the Arabic language we have now, the majority of people, Muslims included would be speaking Syriac/Aramaic. They did not realize that the Qur'an is a Syriac/Arabic text whether they like it or not. This is why al-Mufasereen in the 3rd century of Islam had great difficulty, which still persists to this day in telling us what does the Qur'an really say.

Do languages die? I will leave it to another discussion

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