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We Don't Need No Stinkin' NATO

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Submitted by Dave, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:18

Communism is a spent force today. Russia may have irredentist ambitions on territory with large numbers of ethnic Russians, but the messianic urge for a worldwide worker's revolution is just not there anymore. Moreover, Russia can barely afford her adventure in Syria and Ukraine due to a shrinking economy. Certainly, a big, rich state like Germany can defend herself from Russia, as can the other European countries. It's also doubtful that China will go much beyond her Asian neighborhood in acting the regional bully. NATO's traditional role is no longer needed.

I like the idea of defending civilization, but that can only be accomplished by states with enough civility and self-confidence to do the job and merit the fight, and much of western Europe has become decadent and simply not worth it. A major party in Britain, Labour, is frankly anti-Semitic. And police in Britain went years letting young adolescent girls be abused by "Asian" predators, allegedly for fear of "racism" accusations. Many European countries prosecute people who dare to even criticize Islam. The problem isn't just the lack of a First Amendment, it's lack of traditional values or national purpose. We can't defend people who won't defend themselves.

The only ideology in the world today with significant spunk that wants world domination is Islamism, and its most dangerous proponent is Iran. That threat is best countered by making opportunistic alliances with those players most willing and able to help, and that would only be a small subset of NATO.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
EU the third actor against NATO's trident [281 words]mythNov 13, 2017 06:32241285
We Don't Need No Stinkin' NATO [250 words]DaveNov 12, 2017 12:18241283
Replace Turkey with Russia in NATO after Putin's Term Ends [153 words]
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RobertOct 25, 2017 22:03241157
This IS The Generation - Possibilities of Long Term Negotiations Now Very Remote. [181 words]M ToveyNov 21, 2017 17:15241157
1Remember Korean War [75 words]
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Ahmet UnalOct 20, 2017 01:52241111
Dear Dr. Pipes [80 words]
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Debanjan BanerjeeOct 19, 2017 01:56241102
Dear Dr. Pipes [211 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 22, 2017 04:03241102
Debanjan Banerjee is playing naive [37 words]PrashantOct 22, 2017 23:05241102
Dear Prashant [99 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 28, 2017 23:25241102
The "bulwark" of Turkey [421 words]Michael SOct 30, 2017 18:50241102
NATO Is As Weak and Confused As Its Members [128 words]DaveOct 18, 2017 20:08241101
Let Juncker lead Europe straight to hell; and let Erdogan do the same with Turkey [366 words]Michael SOct 21, 2017 08:03241101
Exclude Turkish participation from weapons development [82 words]Jorgen NielsenOct 17, 2017 21:25241089
Israel is surrounded by Russian (and American) systems. Only Samson Option can protect them [72 words]Michael SOct 30, 2017 19:03241089
1Time for NATO to Help End the Turkish Occupations! [240 words]UNCLE VLADDIOct 17, 2017 18:55241087
The situation could tget very volatile, very fast. [172 words]Michael S.Oct 17, 2017 07:49241085
There is a strategy for NATO to defeat islamism [158 words]
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piet-heinOct 17, 2017 07:31241083
Nothing new: remember Portugal and Greece. [34 words]BorisGOct 22, 2017 04:53241083
Turkey different from Greece and Spain [182 words]mythNov 13, 2017 06:57241083

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