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Submitted by Alexandros (United Kingdom), May 23, 2012 at 06:20

"Allow me to unabashedly state that God does exist. This fact stands, whether I or anyone else believes it or not."

I can not prove neither he does nor he doesn't exist, so this situation relies in belief and it can not be stated as a fact. The fact is that You believe in God's existence and that is fine by me.

"Accepting an actual historical Adam and Eve, in and of itself, is not the significant issue here."

I Know it is not the case, but i can reassure you that there are people who believe that literally Adam and Eve were the first people on earth and they also put this somewhere in 3000 B.C if i am not wrong, something which of course is at least stupid.

You are writing about killing and Murder and that this has happened due to antisemitism. Well i have to disagree. First of all the old Testament is full of murder and murder committed by Jews, except if you believe that this murder, whether mythological or historical it doesn't make a difference, is excused because the Jews are the chosen people of God, an idea which is at least racist and makes God a racist as well! In fact in such beliefs a lot of organisations have based their racist propagandas or in the opposite that the Jews crucified Jesus so all Jews are bad and cursed. I think that murder has been a fact on this planet for ever and it is not related to anti semitism or in any case anti semitism was not the main cause of murder, though it has clearly been an excuse for some regimes. Also murder has been done by all religions, Christians, Islamists, Jews Pagans and Atheists in the form of Communism and even though the cause for those murders was not religion, this was the excuse so to convince the "simple" to grab the swords or the rifles and kill their fellow people. The most unexcused massacre of all though were the nuclear bombs in Japan, this has been the most raw massacre in history of humanity.

"Science and ideas have mainly flourished in those parts of Europe and a young America who recognized the authority and divinity of Jesus Christ, and most certainly the covenant people of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, being the true Jewish people of Israel and abroad."

All this statement is by far false. Science and ideas flourished in Egypt, Mesopotomia, China, South America, and took their highest form in ancient Greece, Rome did very good in the beginning as well, then the religious wars came and the Vikings the Mongols, and all these tribes and the only thing they brought except from murder was the canons. Other tribes became Christians, other Muslims and other Jews, after so many years Church gained to much power and they started transforming masses into sheep and this was the dark ages, where all ideas and sciences were abandoned, the East Roman empire survived because Greeks took over and because they were raised with the classic ideas they managed to keep the church power under control and that is why Byzantium did n't have a dark era, of course the Mongols came and along with Islam they brought eventually dark ages. In early Arabic Islamic world, also, sciences clearly flourished and this is a historic fact, from what we have found the crusaders were what we would call nowadays as barbarians in comparison with Arabs, now that Islam has become like the Catholic church of the middle ages you can see the results.

In the States every kind of progress in science or ideas has been done from people that clearly were not fanatic religion funs and definetely did not consider themselves as sheep, even if they believed in God.

One important thing though is that culture and science do not always match, Hitler's Germany had magnificent technological achievements, but huge cultural problems, fanatic religion states though had neither technological nor cultural achievements.

I do not want to be a sheep even if i am going to paradise, so it is a matter of opinion i suppose, as for Jesus, if you read the godspells, even the official ones, you will realise that four different people who were close to Him ahave interpreted some things a bit different, showing the lack of humans to fully understand a higher entity!

I have to say again, i might sound like devil's advocate to some, but i support religion because even if God is not a fact, religion is, the only thing i absolutely dissaprove is the fanaticism in religion, people should finally accept the different religions believe in their own and live withthe rest in peace. Also finally some people must admit that most of the scripts are written in a metaphorical way, because people did n't have the knowledge back then to explain things, religion and science and culture can be combined, religion saves the soul, science serves this life and culture moves the society forward.

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