Our dear Ali disagrees with Allah and he is saying that the Quran has its share of foreign words! I'm shocked!
Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 9, 2013 at 13:50
Our dear Ali is really trying to do his little tabligh and da3wa not realizing that some of us kuffar know a thing ot two about the religion of the Arabs only
The Arabic language was still developing as Muhammad preached.
Really? then how do you explain that the Arabs had their الشعر الجاهلي and we can find المعلقات in Mecca you tell me and there are extant Arabic language epigraphy that pre-date Arabic/ islamic imperialism you tell me
Oh the Arabic! You see our dear Ali al-tablighee I do not translate Arabic to tablighees like you that want to have their 15 minutes of fame so you are on your own
Of course their were Greek, Syriac and Abyssinian influences in his Quraishi dialect.
Thank you our dear Ali whose Hindu ancestors were brutalized by islam but then the Quranic claim that it is قران عربي is not true right our dear Ali al-tablighee?
Now you think i should tell your masters the wahhabis that you our dear Ali disagrees with Allah who says that it is قران عربي right? what do you think would happen to you?Hint: Riots and fatwa!
But wait your master sheikh al-Azhar says that the following words in the Qur'an are not Arabic words and here is what he says
آدم أباريق إبراهيم أرائك استبرق إنجيل تابوت توراة جهنم حبر حور زكاة زنجبيل سبت سجيل سرادق سكينة سورة صراط طاغوت عدن فرعون فردوس ماعون مشكاة مقاليد ماروت هاروت الله.
and here is the web page
And what a disaster he is saying that even the word Allah is a foreign word! Is that true our dear Ali or is he a liar and may be Islamophobe too?
What a disaster and Allah is a loan word from Syriac ܐܠܗܐ so it seems that the Quranic claim that it is قران عربي is a bogus claim
How come you did not know that our dear Ali the lost tablighee?
This dialect is what the Quran is referring to.
Really? the Qur'an says that ان اللغة العربية في القران لهجة قريش so where does the Qur'an says that? let me help you it does not say that but it says that the it is قران عربي so someone is a liar here our dear Ali al-tablighee
Oh and how do you know when you do not know any Arabic! Why the delusions
The Jews, Christians and Pagans who conversed with Muhammad all spoke this dialect and were familiar with these 'foreign' terms.
Then you are saying the following:
1. There are indeed foreign words in the Qur'an!
2. That in the case of the foreign words Allah is not the author and the authors are them "Joos and Nasara" and el-mushrikeen so are you saying that our dear Ali? and you think that I should tell the wahhabis too that you are saying that?
The Quran addresses this issue because they accused him of learning foreign books (i.e. Syriac Peshitta), with a foreign teacher.
Oh I see you have no clue what is the Peshitta or البسيطة really? so what is it O paragon of wisdom? so Abul Qasim was able to read a book written in اللغة السريانية I thought that the Qur'an tells us that Abul Qasim was jahil big time so who is the liar here?
See? you got yourself in a topic far above your poor education and no I'm not done with you
You really think? Masha'allah
'Tur-Sineen' actually became an Arabic proper noun, not a 2 word compound.
It's kind of like Americans saying Cherokee.
Hello: Syro-Aramiac is the mother language of both Arabic and Hebrew! English and Cherokee have nothing in common and you need to stick to Urdu
They have no idea what it linguistically means but know what it refers to. This is the case for Tur, as well as 19 prophets.
There are some words like 'Mirhab' which are Abbysynian but it doesn't really matter because the Quraish were well acquainted with that word and what it referred to.
Then the claim that it is a قران عربي is a blatant lie thank you our dear Ali the lost tablighee
It is Clear Arabic,
What is clear Arabic? Neither ܛܘܪܐ nor سنين are clear Arabic or even Arabic unless you disagree with al-Tabari
And you know what? even your master Shiekh al-Azhar admits that inspite of the Quranic claim that it is كتاب مبين when the Qur'an is full of words that has no meaning the likes of
فى القرآن كثير من الكلمات الغريبة ، وهاكم بعضاً منها: فاكهةً وأبًّا ، غسلين ، حنانا ، أوَّاه ، الرقيم ، كلالة ، مبلسون ، أخبتوا ، حنين ، حصحص ، يتفيؤا ، سربا ، المسجور ، قمطـرير ، عسعس ، سجيل ، الناقور ، فاقرة ، استبرق ، مدهامتان..
Oh my source? No other that Sheikh al-Azhar who tells us that the likes of the above wordshave no meaning and here is the web page
Now you tell me why are you pontificating about not just one language but several languages that you cannot speak read or write? Why the delusions you tell me
but specifically to the Quraish. As for the Iraqis(like Tabari) and others, it is a different dialect, so the Ayat does not apply to them.
Hello: al-Tabari was not Iraqi he was Persian and how come you did not know that? could it be because you are ignorant? If so then shame on you
Amazing poor education
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