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Ibn Ismail: Find it here

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Submitted by Plato (India), Jun 7, 2012 at 08:26

Hello Ibn Ismail,

You write:

>>Why do you criticize muhammed's sword and praise your own?<<

Muhammad's blood stained hand has been reaching out from his grave for 1400 years and killing people just as he personally did during his 80 odd gazwas and sariyas not excluding the assassinations of his opponents he ordered including that of doddering old men and a lactating woman. Muhammad's blood-stained sword is still at work all over the world. No other human has managed to continue killing from his grave.

>>Why are your values better than muhammed's?<<

Certainly they are better than Muhammad's values. What were his values? Fight and kill people if they did not obey his command to accept Islam. Remember he gave three choices to the people he invaded without provocation on almost occasions. Accept Islam, pay the humiliation tax jiziya or fight to the death ( Koran 9:29). Muhammad did not value women. He said they are prisoners or slaves in the hands of men (Ibn Ishaq, Tabari) and that she is equivalent to a dog because if a dog or a woman passes in front of a praying man his prayers is nullified (Bukhari 1.486, 90 narrated 'Aisha: Do you make us (women) equal to dogs and donkeys?

>>Is it because your "prophet" wears a suite and tie and sits in his office and doesn't do what it has instructed his barbaric soldiers to do.<<

In Muhammad's case he exceeded what his barbaric soldiers did. For instance he ordered the torture and killing of the husband of the woman (Safiya) he married for money. He had some camel thieves and murderers blinded and staked out in the desert to die of thirst.

>>Your own soldiers testify to your own human rights violation.<<

Your prophet used god to testify to his human rights violations. Allah ordered Muslims to chop off the limbs of people on opposite ends for fitna (as defined by Muslims). He uses Allah to testify to the rights violations of women by letting men beat them for disobedience, as though they are donkey's refusing to carry their burden.

>> Your propaganda channels sugar coat your brutality, the world is overpowered by your military might and is forcefully enslaved to do as you want.<<

Muhammad's propagandists sugar coat their brutality as being sanctioned by Allah and wherever Islamic might prevails (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen,Nigeria….) minorities and women are overpowered by the might of Muslim men and enslaved to their wants.

>> Why are thousands entering Islam in the west, without sharia governance?<<

Joke of the day! Check your statistics.Thousands are entering Islam in the West via the overactive procreative activities of Muslim men. Thousands enter Islam in the West from among hardened criminals in jails also as they can claim extra benefits. Check what kind of Muslims they are after they are out of jail.

Hundreds of thousands are leaving Islam. Many do not reveal their apostasy because Islamic laws demands they be killed. Read this from a blog:[http://pjmedia.com/blog/muslims-leaving-islam-in-droves/ ]

Pope Benedict's choice to publicly baptize the most prominent Muslim in Italy, Egyptian-born Magdi Allam, highlights a quiet worldwide exodus from Islam. In recent years, millions have moved on. With this high-profile action, Pope Benedict demonstratively blesses this massive conversion from the highest levels of the Church.

Interviewed by al-Jazeera in 2006, Ahmad al-Qataani, leader of the Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, explains the decline:

Islam used to represent … Africa's main religion and there were 30 African languages that used to be written in Arabic script. The number of Muslims in Africa has diminished to 316 million, half of whom are Arabs in North Africa. So in the section of Africa that we are talking about, the non-Arab section, the number of Muslims does not exceed 150 million people. When we realize that the entire population of Africa is one billion people, we see that the number of Muslims has diminished greatly from what it was in the beginning of the last century.

>>They realize that Islam is is a guidance to every aspect of life including rules of war.<<

The real guidance they get is that they must become the slaves of a phantom in the sky called Allah and a his rasul, Muhammad. That is why it is a religion of slaves, i.e. those who submit (Islam) without demur to the dictates of this phantom.

>>You only read verses and traditions related to war in Islam.<<

Most aspects of Islam seem to have something to do with war. The biography of the prophet (Ibn Ishaq) is mostly about the many wars he conducted during his lifetime.

Count the number of verses and hadith related to war in comparison to other activities of humans and you will realise your Koran and Hadith are all about war.

Among the irrefutable traditions as exemplified by the INSAN AL KAMIL is war booty which includes the women and children of the enemy who can be kept as sex slaves (concubines) or sold off to the highest bidder.

>>You can't see the full package.<<

The full package if seen will only terrify those who read and understand.

Here are some elements in this package:

  1. If you do not believe in the sky-phantom Allah, you will be fried for eternity, your skin will be melted in oil and replaced with new skin so that you can feel the pain again and again, you will have molten metal poured down your throat and other equally interesting sadistic tortures for merely not acknowledging and worshipping this merciless being.
  2. There are114 Surahs in the Quran and with the exception of a dozen or so each of them has intolerant, or violent or verses which in today's age would be considered unethical. They call for killing, cursing and demeaning the so-called kaffirs.They are all about killing (4:89, 8:12, 8:67…), cursing (2:88, 2:1613:87, 4:52 and many more), and demeaning the non-Muslims calling them unclean in 9:28 or considering them the worst of beasts (6:39, 7:176….). Why does god want to curse and demean His own creation? For not submitting? Did He not know when He created them that they will not submit?
Submitting....

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