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Wrong side repenting and apologizing

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Mar 11, 2012 at 12:07

Dear Alexandros ,

If I may make a comment on what you wrote to Mozere, then my impression is that you have chosen a wrong line of argument. In when particular you wrote :

> Although, they never surrendered they were invaded, This of course does not mean that it was a good action. It was recognised as a bad action from the first moment when the chief general of Greeks, Theodoros Kolokotronis in his memoirs admits the slaughter and he regrets his incapability to foresee and hold the hate that the Greek warriors saw towards the Turks and Albanians expressing the suppression of almost 400 years... of course this is not an excuse and was also recognised and condemned and that is why similar actions were never repeated.<

It is not up to the victim to repent and atone for anything. To repent it is up to those that create a murderous system in which the victim has no chance to survive as long as the evil system and those that profiteer from it exist. The Ottoman system of enslavement, oppression, exploitation, discrimination and extermination was constructed on the idea of the superiority of the Moslem Herrenrasse over the unbeliever lawless cattle-rayas. It is best described by Heinrich von Treitschke in the passage I have included in the comment "Wounds which a mentally sterile Asiatic horde inflicted on Christian civilization still bleed after 500 years".

Do you know of what reminds me a Greek ,an Armenians or Assyrian repenting and atoning before a Turk? A Jew repenting and atoning before a Nazi for those Nazis that perished during the uprising in the Warsaw ghetto or in the uprisings in the death camps of Sobibor or Treblinka. On these occasion a number of Nazis and Nazi-collaborators were in fact killed,some in a brutal way. But I doubt any Jew would ever come up with an idea to regret and atone for what was done then. And the reason is simple and obvious enough. A violent reaction against a system of extreme discrimination and extermination is quite legitimate and natural both according to human and divine laws. Those who have created the evil system are to be blamed for anything it entails and they can never ever be seen as "victims" - as your line of argument unfortunately implies , unwittingly corroborating the Turkish victimization fairy tale.

The best argument to use when Turks - as instructed by their local and Western masters of propaganda and pseudo-history on Turkish payroll like Justin McCarthy - is to assume their interpretation of this or that event to be a habitual Turkish lie and instead to outline the deadly system of regress and de-humanization the Ottomans have imposed upon the populations they enslaved and then quote a few contemporary sources to see the event in a clearer impartial light. The Turks tacitly assume of course that their ignorance of the real history is universally shared and I admit that unfortunately it is too often the case as our system of education has greatly regressed from what it used to be.

Anyway, in this way your hometown of Tripolitsa with its two skull pyramids and ashes of nearby villages and Greek corpses covering the surrounding valleys and mountains , instead of serving the Turkish propaganda , becomes a major point of accusation against the Turkish claims and crimes against humanity and thus the violent reaction of the Greeks against them becomes understandable and not so monstrous as the Turks would like to make us believe. Of course, if one doesn't know what happened before or around that time, then one is prone to agree with the big-mouthed Turkish claims and lies. And what is worse than agreeing with a lie?

But as the Turk by its nature as a Moslem and a jingoist is in principle incapable of conducting a protracted rational debate, he will never ever be able to admit a rational argument based on a free debate and primary sources that do run counter and expose the lies and propaganda he has been zombied to repeat and which constitute his identity as a Moslem and a Turk. I have experienced it often enough.

So please, don't expect your postulate "the importance is to recognise these actions, condemn them and avoid similar actions in the future, not avoid, avoid is not correct, make sure that such things will never happen again" to materialize. The Turk will never admit the Armenian genocide he is responsible for, he will never condemn the Greek genocide he perpetrated,he will never recognize the Assyrian genocide he organized , will never repent for his barbarity in 1955 in Constantinople or in 1974 in Cyprus. He will keep lying and denying and accusing the victims of his own heinous crimes!

The Turkish wolf may put on and wear sheep's clothing from time to time when he finds it favorable to to his propaganda and agenda. But this will change nothing in his bloodthirsty mind, habits and imperialist ambitions. This means that he will repeat what he has done in 1915 to the Armenians whenever he is given an opportunity to do so.Turks are recidivist nation-killers and thieves. From these barbarians you can't expect anything different from what they have been doing for the last millenium. A 1000-year old Turkish jihad against Europe is the best lesson on what in reality Turkey stands for.

Submitting....

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