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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), May 2, 2011 at 12:15

The demise of Osama bin Laden presents itself in a dichotomous fashion; that in the face of seemingly bringing to close a very dark chapter in the American scheme of world socio-politics, as it is supposed by Dr. Pipes, what is there to be expected next? Is elation truly the emotion we should be feeling; or is America being set up for the next series of events?

As the story broke, it took on a sort of developing puzzle, that as various outlets tried to be the first to get to broadcast, the details were not very well presented, leaving confusion in the wake as these same various sources tried to gain creditability and lost it as the next set of details were outed. Then, after a significant delay, the White House took its turn. While not necessarily helping to clear up some questions, certain revelations did bring out certain new understandings of how the White House had certain connections virtually no one else could have perceived. Even at that, after the White House announcement, two very important conclusions could be drawn by this perspective.

First, it is not over, not in the least. We had been reveled in the subsequent years of September 11, 2001 of the strikes made against al-Qaeda leadership that by many accounts tended to minimalize the 'central' command structure that organization seemed to have, giving cause for thinking an upper hand was gained at their expense. That there seemed to be an uncoordinated influence of attacks by groups claiming al-Qaeda connections gave even further appearances that some headway was being made in the fight against Islamist fundamentalist actions against the west since 2001. But it was never enough.

Now, with the revelation that an American strike team was able to finally accomplish what a nearly decade old expenditure of American resources had not yet been able to accomplish, a question is exposed: how was it that the current American administrative executive was able to achieve these results when supposedly American-Pakistani relations are more troubled now than when the previous administration was seeking to do this very thing?

Second, and in concert with the first, this should be a warning that things are not going to get better, but worse. In one of the video extracts at the impromptu gathering outside of the White House, one of the revelers claiming to be ex-military said that it is over….that we should begin the process of extracting ourselves from the other theaters of operations over there. Really? Is that true? I did not see or hear anywhere of fundamentalist Islam rolling up their green flags of rebellion against the western causes and declare that they have lost their will to fight; or of any concessions whatsoever. Be not deceived: the loss of Osama bin Laden to the Islamist world cause does not diminish the intention of the subliminal situation, that of a cause still seeking dominion over the rest of the world.

Martyr status is likely to be bestowed upon the former leader of al-Qaeda, giving a new sense of renewal of the very mentality that initiated the son of Saudi sympathies to start on his quest to radicalize the Muslim world into attempts to gain the upper hand in world politics. September 11, 2001 remains the standard of achievement by those of that mentality which believe they can keep the world of balance off enough to achieve their final goal. While it may indeed be said that a body blow has been afflicted, it is against only a portion of a body, which now excised, will allow the rest to assess what truly has been lost, and what is necessary for recovery. NO, by no means is it over.

Alert status around the western world is elevated; to what extent of its necessity remains to be seen. One of the results to be awaited is to see how much strength al-Qaeda does retain in its already fragmented organization; or if the standard is to be pick-up by others. Either way, it is definitely a watch and see circumstance, a circumstance that requires readiness to be enjoined in the watchfulness. How the American Administrative Executive will appropriate and utilize the fallout of this action against the terrorist actions of the world remains to be seen. The announcement of bin Laden's death is indeed an answer to the call for western justice, but it is merely a page turn away from the continuing of the rest of the story on the conflicts still developing between the western occidental mindset and the oriental one, now being overcome by Islam.


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Thoughts on Bin Laden killing [169 words]NKNov 8, 2013 15:10211302
Osama had many goals that are yet to be achieve? immigration [241 words]abdirisakJun 3, 2011 20:35185954
I'm hoping you are right, Mr. Pipes, but ... [91 words]kmanMay 11, 2011 14:31185111
1more fairytales from PressTV [85 words]romMay 10, 2011 10:40185076
when it comes to inventing stories, no one does better than Jihadis [126 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 17, 2011 00:42185076
2More Islamist hypocrisy [190 words]PrashantMay 7, 2011 00:05184970
2Osama was a real hero [56 words]True BelieverMay 6, 2011 07:40184950
1Your Comment [7 words]Kepha HorMay 8, 2011 21:54184950
1For Some, Sure - But bin Laden Did Not Offer Freedom of Love - Where's the Hero Status in That? [295 words]M. ToveyMay 10, 2011 15:31184950
2"Front line" - ? What a joke ... [44 words]kmanMay 11, 2011 14:43184950
Muslims have no multi-personality disorders [275 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 12, 2011 06:05184950
You blithely equate Christians and Muslims as equally guilty of killing - wrong. [196 words]kmanMay 15, 2011 18:30184950
simple learning and IQ of 5 year old child; that is what Jihadis need [160 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 16, 2011 04:13184950
Muslims are Subject to All Natural Human Traits - All Imperfect - All Needing Salvation [1140 words]M. ToveyMay 16, 2011 13:56184950
I couldn't do any where near as well in your language, but ... [223 words]kmanMay 16, 2011 20:08184950
I put in simple grade 3 English [67 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 18, 2011 01:38184950
No "hurt" taken, "Ravi" ... [27 words]kmanMay 18, 2011 18:07184950
Reactions Overseas [56 words]ConnieMay 5, 2011 17:22184925
2Killing of wild arabian dog [179 words]Muslimk***May 5, 2011 11:02184915
Don't you Insult Dog [7 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 18, 2011 11:30184915
1I'm concerned about Pakistanis [190 words]There is NO Santa ClausMay 5, 2011 08:14184905
1Bin Laden posters in Bonn Germany [76 words]mythMay 5, 2011 06:17184902
you once thought OBL was more important! [128 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
M. PohlMay 5, 2011 01:12184895
3Pakistan the thriving centre of terror sources - Indians Feel vindicated [351 words]adam eveMay 4, 2011 19:32184873
Highlight [22 words]vijayMay 5, 2011 05:00184873
Now, wait a minute! [60 words]Kepha HorMay 8, 2011 21:51184873
Now, wait a minute! [42 words]Kepha HorMay 8, 2011 21:52184873
I agree with many of your comments, but ... [94 words]kmanMay 11, 2011 14:55184873
conclusion [24 words]John PhilipsMay 4, 2011 05:50184845
1Looks like my comment on this quote got cut off [82 words]John PhilipsMay 7, 2011 03:09184845
Lets Make A Couple of Things Clear [255 words]MikeMay 3, 2011 14:15184813
the legal perspective: the west vs the islamists [193 words]mythMay 4, 2011 06:27184813
1The Bush Doctrine Trumps President Ford [37 words]Virginia GentlemanMay 4, 2011 08:41184813
Your Argument Sounds Like An Obama Argument [68 words]MikeMay 5, 2011 09:07184813
Let's be legal all the time [76 words]Kepha HorMay 8, 2011 21:47184813
There is one important word here - "political" ... [170 words]kmanMay 11, 2011 15:14184813
I agree, "Kepha". [90 words]kmanMay 11, 2011 15:28184813
1Public killing was a mistake [144 words]Lars NielsenMay 3, 2011 08:32184795
Bin Laden Made the First Public Mistake - And the Second by NOT Giving Up [420 words]M. ToveyMay 3, 2011 18:26184795
Sorry Lars [52 words]DennisMay 4, 2011 07:35184795
1Though he was dead ... [76 words]Humanity not for MonstersMay 5, 2011 13:12184795
Good post, Mr. Tovey [94 words]Kepha HorMay 7, 2011 16:33184795
1US & Pak must be in cahoots to keep Osama in a secure hideout [301 words]Ghulam MuhammedMay 3, 2011 01:44184790
1Sorry, Ghulam, you're full of it. [135 words]Kepha HorMay 7, 2011 16:28184790
Every one who was bad was created by America. Yeah Right. [72 words]TejMay 8, 2011 02:39184790
RE: Osama [262 words]Ghulam MuhammedMay 8, 2011 03:47184790
So, Muslims are JOOOOOOZ too? [59 words]Kepha HorMay 8, 2011 21:41184790
"Collusion" -? Very limited ... [107 words]kmanMay 11, 2011 15:40184790
Take your own advice [109 words]Ghulam MuhammedMay 12, 2011 01:21184790
This might surprise you, but I agree ... [243 words]kmanMay 12, 2011 20:43184790
Very well said! [27 words]PrashantMay 14, 2011 01:30184790
2A note on the death of Bin laden [482 words]martinMay 3, 2011 01:18184788
2On to the next nut [21 words]Jay1May 2, 2011 23:09184779
Thoughts on the Death of Bin Laden [64 words]Dan RusenMay 2, 2011 22:21184777
1Islamic achievement impresses me. [76 words]MartinMay 4, 2011 02:41184777
Chicken coming home to roost [144 words]Amin RiazMay 2, 2011 22:05184772
Bin Laden was Indeed Foul - But America was NEVER His Home [360 words]M. ToveyMay 3, 2011 19:18184772
No more afraid. [149 words]batya daganMay 2, 2011 21:46184771
Osama was a hero [132 words]mikeMay 3, 2011 19:14184771
Hero to some , monster to others. [117 words]batya daganMay 3, 2011 20:30184771
A Certification of "Live Death" [63 words]alanMay 2, 2011 20:24184770
A trivial event in defense of America. [200 words]Ralph C. Whaley MDMay 2, 2011 20:00184769
The Road Ahead: We Must Not Waver [192 words]Frank LukeMay 2, 2011 18:06184767
6Osama and Obama politics [113 words]saraMay 2, 2011 17:14184762
2Dust Bin of History [118 words]Barry BlackMay 2, 2011 15:10184757
The sheik is death, long live the sheik! [325 words]SergioMay 2, 2011 15:07184756
Continue the fight against terrorism [53 words]k00litMay 2, 2011 14:17184755
RE: Osama killed [605 words]Ghulam MuhammedMay 2, 2011 12:21184752
19-11 Will Be Different This Year [769 words]M. ToveyMay 2, 2011 12:15184751
1favourable headlines [332 words]mythMay 2, 2011 09:10184748
10In memory of the victims of the 9/11 atrocity [102 words]dhimmi no moreMay 2, 2011 06:14184742
80% Rule [82 words]Barry BlackMay 4, 2011 10:48184742
Now recover damages from Pakistan [296 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 4, 2011 13:17184742
Stupid ILies [262 words]Amin RiazMay 4, 2011 20:47184742
3What stupid lies? But Pakistan is a terrorist state [716 words]dhimmi no moreMay 6, 2011 13:11184742
2A bodyblow? [101 words]ZSIMay 2, 2011 02:46184737
2Islamist "monster-heads" [60 words]Mr. BlachMay 2, 2011 17:06184737
more than a figurehead [125 words]mythMay 3, 2011 09:37184737
1A Blow to FAKE anti-war activists [27 words]EdwardMay 2, 2011 01:52184736
1ladens last stand [34 words]dunceMay 2, 2011 01:48184735
Imad Mughniyah [14 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AlexMay 2, 2011 01:32184734
License to Kill [51 words]Barry BlackMay 3, 2011 17:41184734
Pakistan has forced to be silent, while America obtained its license to kill [178 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 21, 2011 02:00184734
Protection Methodology in Civilized Society - And the Consequences of Not Honoring the Sanctity of LIfe [966 words]M. ToveyJun 15, 2011 16:27184734
2About time! Congrats America! Cheers from Israel! [21 words]sagiMay 2, 2011 01:28184733
1a shoo in for Obama [35 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
CristinaMay 2, 2011 00:49184732
I apologize [83 words]WallyMay 2, 2011 17:50184732
Possibly but it comes too soon [39 words]Abu NudnikMay 3, 2011 01:06184732
It's Always the Economy [63 words]Barry BlackMay 3, 2011 17:25184732

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