| Daniel Pipes Mobile Edition Regular Site |
|
| Home | Articles | Blog | Reviews | Search | |
Submitted by Claire (United States), May 4, 2008 at 04:16
Mai,
As a generic Westerner, I was fascinated to see you talk about the West not putting in any effort to understand you. That's amazing, because whenever I talk to a U.S. Muslim, he or she has no interest at all in learning about me or my culture, but insists I must read the Koran in order to under theirs.
I've read 3 versions of the Koran over the years, and I guess it's just my generic Westernness, but it looks like a really smart guy, much like Moses of the Jews or Paul of the Christians or Mao Tse Tong of China figured out a way to control a lot of people and be the one calling the shots. I'm speaking of Muhammed, of course. He doesn't strike me as a prophet, so again my Westernness is showing.
He sounds like a warlord who also was a genius at seizing and retaining control of people and dominating them, much like Moses and Paul and Mao. Clever trick to call himself the last prophet of a supernatural being that doesn't even exist. Of course, the Ba'hai, Latter-Day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses and other groups also have their more recent "prophets," but I think those were just men who sought power and wealth, too.
If you wish to live in the 7th century, that's your choice. But there are a lot of people who want to force garden-variety Westerners like myself to do so, too. You may not understand this, but I will die trying to stop anyone who tries to force me to practice a religion--any religion. If a religion seizes my government, I will do everything in my power to stop it.
The U.S. has a system where even freaks only get 8 years as president, so we don't have to revolt--we can just wait them out. The fact is, if you live here, you can be a Muslim, Hindu, atheist, or whatever you wish as long as you don't hurt or limit others. It's a lie that the West is just a materialistic mess. Most people here are thoughtful, hard-working people who love their families and try to live an ethical life. They aren't in the headlines, any more than ordinary Pakistanis are in the news. Many drive fuel-efficient cars and take public transportation when they can and recycle to help the environment. We help the needy, try to raise our kids to be good citizens.
I do think that Islam is evolved to about the level that Catholicism reached in the Middle Ages, and the laws are brutal and unjust in many countries. Maybe not yours. I love being able to go out in the hot weather in a tee shirt, shorts, and sandals and not have anyone pay any attention. I love being able to openly flirt and hold just about any job, shop wherever I want, go to any restaurant I want, and not have to deal with other people's religious beliefs. I love being able to go to the pool or beach and wear a swimsuit without giving it a second thought. I love this life. So don't be fooled by those who say things negative about the U.S. I love it here. And our secular government means you're just as free to build a mosque as I am to build a place for atheists or Hindus or Buddhists to gather. I love that about the West.
I am so thankful to Daniel Pipes for making this site available, because I hear so many people condemn "The West." I think it's time for The West to develop some self-esteem. We make mistakes, but overall, it's a place where all religious people can feel free--and those of us who don't believe in a god, goddess, or deity also can feel free.
Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened for relevance, substance, and tone, and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome, but comments are rejected if scurrilous, off-topic, vulgar, ad hominem, or otherwise viewed as inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the Guidelines for Comments. For informational purposes, we identify countries from which comments are sent.
| Title | By | Date |
| No fear [110 words] | Mr.Naim | Dec 3, 2008 16:59 |
| MAKING MUSLIMS CONFUSED [113 words] | AAMIR AHSAN KHAN | May 28, 2008 03:51 |
| ↔ please [66 words] | sisay | Jan 27, 2009 09:09 |
| Moderate Islam - I don't think so ... [79 words] | Oliver | May 21, 2008 16:53 |
| does fundamentalism is merely religious? [183 words] | Shamim Ibn Aziz | Sep 2, 2006 13:16 |
| ↔ Islamic Fundamentalism is the problem [125 words] | Joe Baginski | Sep 12, 2006 01:09 |
| ↔ in response to your comment " the fundamentalism is the problem" [142 words] | Shamim Ibn Aziz | Sep 22, 2006 07:22 |
| ↔ fundamentalism [1303 words] | B. Williame | Oct 19, 2008 16:56 |
| ↔ The Paradox of Fundamentalism [462 words] | Gaby | Nov 6, 2008 09:53 |
| ↔ B. Williame [74 words] | arsalan | Jan 16, 2009 10:37 |
| ↔ Arsalan, youre joking, right? [174 words] | B. Williame | Jan 18, 2009 09:05 |
| ↔ not heavnly Ideology [157 words] | sisay | Jan 27, 2009 08:57 |
| Political System in Islam [2475 words] | Muhammad Shakeel Faiz | Jan 7, 2006 06:06 |
| ↔ democracy and islam [112 words] | shamim ibn aziz | Aug 28, 2006 12:03 |
| ↔ Islam isn't from God, but from Allah [294 words] | B.W. | Oct 19, 2008 17:20 |
| Something about Indian Muslims' problem [304 words] | Vishal | May 1, 2005 16:12 |
| Beating Fundamentalist Islam [25 words] | Clifford Ishii | Jan 7, 2005 21:55 |
| ↔ reply to Clifford Ishii [35 words] | tariq | Jan 8, 2006 16:45 |
| ↔ Reply to Mr. Tariq. [144 words] | Jaisingh Thakur | Jul 11, 2007 02:42 |
| Islamic Secularists ? [132 words] | SB Puri | Nov 26, 2003 14:23 |
| Valid article, however... [64 words] | Alex | Nov 16, 2002 16:03 |
| Let people choose their own way [246 words] | C. John Smith | Oct 28, 2002 12:00 |
| Islam-phobia? [66 words] | xx2342 | Jul 24, 2002 22:03 |
| ↔ What Planet Are You On? [127 words] | Kevin Bauer | Aug 2, 2006 00:22 |
| ↔ ALL Muslims are extremists [50 words] | Simon | Feb 12, 2007 05:22 |
| ↔ The Bible states it too... [23 words] | Charlotte | Apr 23, 2007 22:06 |
| ↔ Islam is a fundementally violent religion and culture, but america is not perfect either [579 words] | Jack | May 15, 2007 22:10 |
| ↔ fundamentalist islam [33 words] | lourdes green | Nov 28, 2007 15:20 |
| ↔ True in every means - [75 words] | sonaji | Jan 12, 2009 08:40 |
| Interesting Article! [47 words] | James | Jun 29, 2002 17:25 |
| ↔ Muslims would rather [335 words] | Mai | Feb 26, 2006 03:38 |
| ↔ ⇒ Just a generic Westerner [635 words] | Claire | May 4, 2008 04:16 |
| ↔ why can't we be friends [388 words] | Stan the eastern man | Sep 8, 2009 12:33 |