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Turkey, etc. first, then America et al

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Jan 7, 2015 at 05:24

Hi, Tovey

"...we wonder if the America Administrative Chief Executive's role on all of this is, in and of itself, just as enigmatic, if not more so..."

Indeed.

  • "...there is more to the lack of appropriate effort than meets the eye..."

Indeed again. When we see mushroom clouds appearing in the Middle East, I suppose someone will notice. Until then, everyone seems to be hoping against hope that it won't happen on their watch.

"...destiny will intercede scripturally and show them the truth of their errors, if any survive to be queried as to 'wha happen'd."

Most people in the world are like young drivers, before their first accident. They take the warning signs lightly. Years later, if they survive, they start to take them more seriously. I say this, because I used to be young and now I'm old.

"Turkey's role, along with all of those who are named along with Magog, is not so mystic as the question so many in the west are mystified about: what of the American question? By this observation, a quick review about the true ambitions of the America Administrative Chief Executive's role on all of this: who is orchestrating in the background and who is getting played? Likely, only Israel will get to find out."

Turkey is indeed Magog. Here's a pretty good map of the sons of Noach:

http://www.mazzaroth.com/TableOfNations/Images/Genesis10Map.gif

"Magog" is on the map, even though its location isn't pinpointed in the Bible, and "Madai" is to the east of it, in NW Iran. Most scholars agree that "Madai"'s descendants are the modern Kurds, most of whom live in SE Turkey. On the other end of Anatolia is Javan, which is Hebrew for Greece. The English derivative is "Ionia", the name of the earliest known true Greek civilization; and "Ionia" is not in Greece proper but in western Turkey. All the sons of Japheth, then, can be located in Turkey; so it's reasonable to locate Magog there. There were two separate peoples in Anatolia called "Hittites" by their neighbors. The second spoke an Indo-European language; and I don't believe the first group has been linguistically identified. Some have said that the term "Hittite" was a geographic term, similar to the modern term "Anatolian"; so perhaps one of those "Hittite" peoples were the "Magog" of Ezekiel.

The most important thing about the map I've shown, along with many others showing the location of the peoples described in Genesis 10, is that they can all be located in a small part of the earth from Sudan to Turkey, and from SW Iran to Thrace. Interestingly, a map of the DNA distribution of the "J" y haplogroups covers this same area. I wrestled with that for years, until deciding that the "creation of Adam" was an evolutionary proces that created Adam; and that Adam, only a few generations removed from Aaron, probably had a DNA haplogroup similar to that of the modern Cohens (haplogroup J). The rest of humanity were "sons and daughters of men", whereas Adam and his family, who had a living relationship with God, were the "sons of God". That's my doctrine, which you may judge on its merits. It places Turkey to the FAR North of Israel, so that it fits all the requirements of Ezekiel 38-39.

Turkey's role, then, is to get together with Iran (Persia), Sudan (Cush) and Cyrenaica/ Libya (Phut) to attack Israel. Israel is to then burn the captured "weapons" (oil? nuclear fuel?) for seven years, while burying dead bodies strewn across the land. None of this describes the truly final, pre-MIllennial battle described in Zech 14 and Rev. 19; so it is a non-nuclear war of lesser importance.

The final pre-Millennial war is described in Zech 14, as ALL THE NATIONS of the world attacking Israel, and succeeding in sacking Jerusalem. No burning of the weapons here, nor burying any dead; and the United States is clearly one of "all the nations". In Ezekiel 38-39, on the other hand, the US could be considered, along with Europe, as one of the "Merchants of Tarshish." Since the "Sea of Tarshish" is the Mediterranean, and we are all great trading (merchant) nations, it would be difficult to find a more appropriate interpretation in our times. In Ezekiel, the Merchants of Tarshish are onlookers -- a good description of Obama's foreign policy.

Today, Cyrenaica is in the Egyptian sphere, and Tripoli is in the Turkish sphere. Some cities in Cyrenaica, such as parts of Benghazi, have declared for the Islamic State; but I think they'll be pushed out by the Tobruk-based Libyan government. Sudan's President is an opportunist, playing the Iranian and Turkish card at the same time in supplying weapons to Tripoli and providing smuggling routes for Iran-based terrorists. So, there isn't today a Phut-Cush-Persia-Magog alliance; but they're working on it.

The US and Europe, meanwhile, are working together in the background. The great majority of EU countries are already in NATO, so even now they are all able to work together in war. They don't have to wait, therefore, for any "Transatlantic Trade Partnershi" in order to attack Israel; but I think they will wait.

Shalom shalom :-)

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