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Communism is a religion too! Part three

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in response to reader comment: Communism cannot be a religion

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 20, 2013 at 07:19

Will wrote

Dear Dhimmi,

Hi Will

I respectfully disagree that communism can be a religion. Communism rose and fell inside 100 years (give or take), largely without bloodshed. Religions don't do that.

Not true and i will give you a very interesting example, and in the words of Patricia Crone, the case of the "Maori prophet of the 1860's who practically invented Islam for himself" yes he invented a religion not unlike Islam with prophethood and connection to the old Hebrew prophets and a cultic site and Hijra and Hajj and all and where is he now? you can read more about him and about the idea of the theory that Islam originated as a "nativist movement" in Crone's "Meccan Trade" so the question here is why do we have Islam now but not the religion of this Maori? Any guesses?

Further, communism doesn't have a central church or temple,

Sure and so is Islam and communism does not have a god or gods and so is Buddhism where the rule of god or gods is maginal at best

nor does it have specific rites.

Well then what is religion? and I'm sure you know that the word religion comes from the Latin word religio or in the words of Fenton the relationship between human beings and the gods and that human beings should perform "the gods rituals" dependably and worshipers in exchange worshipers expect protection, sanction of social order economic or health benefits or favorable weather and in return the gods were to accept gifts from those worshipers

I'm sure that you must know that the real test for what is religion would be the big four: the diagnosis of a disorder, symbolic distancing, liminality and restoration or rebirth and as you shall see communism provides all of the above

Communism never held sway with a majority of the people it ruled over.

That does not mean that it was not a religion

If it had, Russians would have retained communism as an identity trait after the fall of the USSR.

Sure and in fact and again in the words of Fenton: "For some time scholars have pointed out that any modern ideology functions much like a traditional religion. Thus an ideology like Marxism provides a world of meaning and a way of life for its followers it organizes their energies defines what is worth doing constructs a mythology of struggle and saintly heroism and establishes rituals designed to reinforce these values. For this reason scholars have called Marxism a pseudo-religion. Like traditional religions Marxism attempts to transform people into its own image of perfection. When it is successful it engenders a sense of awe and reverence of exhilaration or guilt in the presence of what it holds to be sacred and of ultimate value."

Now notice what he says next: "We consider the evidence that Maoism form of Marxism is an enemy of traditional religion partly because it appropriates many of the fucntions of religion."

Anyways, I've been a long time reader here, and I enjoy reading your posts, keep up the good work in the fight against Islamic imperialism!

Thank you and I urge you to post more often

Buts important that we make complete sense in all are arguments and ensure of veracity of our arguments since Islamic apologists and their liberal henchmen do have the upper hand on us in terms of access and control of academia and thereby give off the impression that they are more knowledgeable, smarter, and more correct than we are.

You see i live by the Biblical saying that the truth shall set you free and all I can do is provide the evidence and let the readers judge


Thank you Will


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