West - always did do HATE| better!

Submitted by Amin Riaz (United Kingdom), Apr 16, 2013 at 20:13

Where is that formula?

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"I find it amusing how Muslims constantly refer to sex before marriage as being immoral. "

It is Judeo-Christian Religion. Islam is third down the list. . . this is my comment:

In other words, a religion like Christianity. Which has been rendered to being meaningless. Take "sex before marriage". It was a major thing. These days. . . who cares?

Look how you manipulated the comment.

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"Yet choosing sexual partners in Western culture is 99.999% consensual, and there are laws to protect where it is not consensual."

Choosing partners and 'sex before marriage' are two different thing.

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"Lets look at the Muslim model, what percent of temporary marriages are moral? "

Temporary Marriages only occur within Shia Muslims - who are only about 10% of Islam.

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"What percentage of Western Marriages are forced, as opposed to what is the percentage of Muslim marriages are forced?"

Well. . . answer it.

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"Your lack of moral education means you cannot understand that what you believe is sanctioned and ethical behaviour, would be considered religiously sanctioned rape and prostitution."

Your lack of moral do not consider "lying" to be wrong . . . I have encountered many of your easy manipulations . . . I remember then great formula lie . . . .2 years - I am still waiting!

For example - you know perfectly well - Temp marriage is Shia practice only . . . yet lied about it. . .

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Yes there are and have been paedophile Priests in the Catholic Church, but I have never heard a Catholic Priest preaching about how great it is for a 53 yo man to have sex with a 9 year old girl.

Who only became Pedophiles BECAUSE of ridiculous enforcement of celibacy - leaving no outlet for legitimate sexula gratification.

"how great it is for a 53 yo man to have sex with a 9 year old girl."

Even within Islam who agree that age of Aisha was 9 do not say how "great" it is. Nearly all Islamic law - Hanaf, Shafi, Maliki etc - believe the correct age of marriage to be after reaching maturity. The only advocating against it - are known as Ahl-e-Hadith [those who do not confine to a Madhab - school of law].

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"I have never heard about any Christian literature that supports having sex slaves is what God wants?"

Never read the Bible? . . .

" When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)"

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"Marriage is supposed to be between consenting Adults, and a beautiful and secure institution, not the pathetic sham most muslim marriages are."

This is SIMPLY you hatred talking - you have no logical basis whatso ever. West does not believe in Marriage. . . . as it has eroded and eroding any religious basis. . . hence the high divorce rates. To get out of this . . . you simply pointed the finger the other way . . .

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"The Western system may not be perfect, but it can criticise itself and change, hoprfully for the better. "

As West is increasing going Atheist - its morally is shifting. Marriage - as it stands - no longer applies/will apply.

The old system was judeo-Christian - mostly ONLY Muslims live by the code. You people do not.

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"The Islamic model is failed and broken. Every where islam is dominant, the people live sad and pathetic lives. Your Amin are the result of the sad and pathetic Muslim system."

Again - illogical hatred and nothing more. . . there is nothng more there. Look at this comment - it is EVEN made personal at me. . . it is obvious - you cannot cope.

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"Criticise the West and Christians all you like, but expect to be called on the immoral and unethical religious values you hold. Frankly I consider you an idiot."

Of course you do - given the many lies - in the past - I have exposed . . . and I continue to do so . . .

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Look at how I decimated - your long standing hero Dhimmi - I know - I am that good!

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