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Submitted by Shaun (United Kingdom), Nov 10, 2006 at 11:56

Octavio,

Let me first begin by saying what is the truth, Britain is not Anti-European. since as far back as History makes sense, Britain and Europe have proud and illustrious histories. the only difference between Britain and the bulk of mainland Europe is that Europe has not been stripped of its Pride.

when you speak of Britain, forgive me if i am wrong but it comes across to me that you are indicating that we harbour Islamic Fundamentalism. Let me say now that this is not true, In Nations like your own and the rest of the international community you only see televised opinions made by the government and Pro-governmental persons. If you were to visit the Home website of the British National Party it can tell you fully, the views of the majority of the British people.

however, these views and opinions are kept annoyingly quiet due to Britains fear of being seen as a "racist Nation". Why? Islamic clerics such as Abu Hamza were allowed to Preach messages of hate and death to young and radical muslims about the west- practically un-aposed. so why do we sit in the dark about our true feelings.

going back to the opening paragraph, i believe Britain's national pride has been stripped and now stands as a mere shadow of its former self. I at present serve in Her majesty's armed forces and at any time would be willing to give my life for what i believe in. I love my country, or at least the idea of a once proud Britain. i am not an imperialistic person, however, Britain once owned one of the most powerful empires known to man since that of Rome. I and many of my countrymen would be so proud to say we are British had we not had our Pride stripped of us, but worse still, it was our own government who did this to Britain. I do not believe that to this day, Britain should have its commonwealth, however i think some of the views and ways we exercised our empire should still be imposed today.

As i say, i love my country and found it hard to bite my lip whilst you slated and ran down its name.....but the saddest thing is....much of what you said is sadly true. I beleive that unless Britain goes through a dramatic revolution, it will slip back into the dark ages. All my opinions and more are expressed on the BNP website. I am not a totally racist person, i do not wish for a repeat of Adolf Hitlers reign on the muslims of this country. All i say is that, this is BRITAIN and that of British people. we are a proud race and rightfully so, and i do not think these people should have the right to take away over 2000 thousand years worth of what has made Britain, Great Britain.


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6I agree... The Brits are garbage [203 words]DannyDec 19, 2012 07:35201587
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5If you don't like the culture in UK then don't come here or stay [160 words]HarryJan 13, 2007 07:1372639
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1Don't Speak for Me for I hate Those Who Come to the West & Expect Us to Bow to Their Way [148 words]DarrenAug 24, 2006 21:4448563
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Evidence [65 words]Octavio JohansonMay 30, 2006 17:4746467
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