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Submitted by RPaine (Australia), May 5, 2006 at 09:38
Please excuse the lengthy reply to AO, but it seemed to warrant being drilled into a bit:
1. “why is it that muslims as a whole (all 1.2 billion of us) have to apologize for the acts of a few (i.e al-qaida).”
– Just as we require that a child apologise when it was bad, Muslims need to learn humility, responsibility and build character if they are to join the rest of the world.
2. “When Oklahoma was bombed by a christian, no one asked the christian community to applogize for it.”
– Poor example. I have heard this excuse before; it works a lot better if the audience is illiterate and isolated from information because they're in the middle of a desert. The Okalahoma bombing was a political and/or anarchist act, and although it was committed by non-Muslims, it was not committed against Muslims, thus it was not a religious attack.
3. “I understand that many in the muslim world were cheering, etc.”
– yes, they were. Shouldn’t someone apologise for that?! Where were your “1.2 billion of us” Muslims then, when they saw other Muslims celebrating?! Celebrating?!
4. “But for some reason, the muslims in America and the entire muslim population as a whole needs to apologize for it in order to satisfy the US/West.”
– Look, the very idea of apologizing, for a Muslim, is abhorant, for it is humiliating. Isn’t it?! Remember Dhimmitude? Well, Dhimmitude, according to Islam, is supposed to be committed against Christians! This is why Muslims are so hyper defensive about being even slightly insulted/humiliated. This comes from Islamic teaching and a low self-esteem that Muslims have, so they are petrified that someone might get the upper hand - your “1.2 million of us” Muslims must grow up! And in growing up, you must learn to take responsibility, while discarding your fears – your fears are what imprisons you, not the Jews or the Americans.
5. “Why? When it's an act of aggresion done by the west (i.e. palestine, iraq, afghanistan, bosnia, etc) those people are identified as iraqi, palestinian, afghani, etc. Not as muslims.”
– Hello, we don’t judge a population by its major religion. And just to prove it to you with a couple examples, we didn’t fight the Japanese in WWII because they were Shinto, neither did we fight the Germans because they weren’t religious, instead we faught the Japanese because they attacked us and the Germans received our retribution because they were killing so many other Europeans.
6. “Is this a physcological game by the west to isolate those people and prevent the entire muslim population from helping and asking why we are being targeted? ” – The idea that if everyone could just form a big enough gang, then we could win against the US/West is promoted Muslims not Christians/Americans. We are independent thinking. Your “1.2 of us” Muslims are more like a flock of penguins – everyone stands around, huddling next to the water just waiting for someone to jump in first…then everyone jumps in. Right?! This is another reason why Iraq had to be taken on because they were about to jump in after Osama bin Penguin…get it now?
7. “In Palestine, why is it that the Israeli's are perceived to be the victims?”
– Because the Palestinians kill innocent citizens. You will never win in this manner. The world felt sorry for you for a while but that has become old, no one is buying it anymore.
8. “If you look at the living conditions and the treatment that each side gets from the other. It's by far the palestinians that are the victims here. Just in the amount of deaths since the 2001 intifada, the ratio is ridiculous.”
– Palestinians are the chosen victims for all of the Arab world, which is not talked about very much. Other Arab countries do point to the suffering of the Palestinians but do nothing to help them other than to encourage them to fight the non-Muslim, the Jew and Christian.
9. “The palestinians are in a virtual prison! ”
– The walls of the prison shrink upon a black heart of wrongful deeds. No matter how much you chant or celebrate death, it will not make your people proud, honorable or happy!
10. “Women prevented from going to the hospital to deliver babies because of the checkpoint.”
– Perhaps Hamas should have not sent female suicide bombers PRETENDING TO BE PREGNANT into Israeli civilian populations, to deliver death rather than life. Shouldn’t these choices be to blame, along with the Mullahs that promoted it?
11. “Roads blocked by Israeli bulldozers. Farms leveled because of "possible" security risk.”
– Simple. Don’t let the terrorists use your property to conduct raids or launch missiles.
12. “This just doesn't add up as far as how we view this in the west. Children prevented from going to school because they have to wait up to 4 hours to get through a checkpoint.”
– More excuses. And by the way, the West detests excuses. If the Palestinian Government(s) used their money for education rather than terrorism and Arafat-like profiteering, the Palestinians would have a whole generation of productive people that would raise Palestine out of the dust it so cherishes. This is what the civilized world would respect – give your kids a modern education instead of teaching them how to throw stones.
13. “The IDF is treating the palestinians worst than the nazi's treated the jews in Europe.”
– Nonsense. The Nazis would have turned Palestine into a parking lot and no one would be left to complain! The IDF on the other hand is held back by political forces, especially the West.
14. “If anyone should be sympathetic to the people being oppressed, it should be the israeli's. They seem to be leading the world (probably in history) in the art of oppression.”
– I hesitate to answer this one but I will give it my respectful best. The Israelis have become hardened over the millennia because they have been persecuted; they have an incredibly exacting work and study ethic, which seems to be driven by self-preservation; and like in any population/group, there are those who will exert their will over others. Perhaps if the Arabs weren’t so anti non-Muslims the Jews would have remained in Israel instead of being persecuted of their lands, out of the Land of Israel (ref. Bible) and into Europe centuries ago. The Jews create success wherever they go; the Middle East sure lost a great chance to surge ahead of the rest of the world. Why don’t you blame Mohammad for the pitiful results his teaching delivered? Oh, that’s right, self-criticism is not accepted in Arabia; but its really cool to criticize the West/America/Christians/Jews, isn’t it?
I hope that this clears up your misconceptions AO.
-RPaine
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