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Submitted by Frank (United States), Feb 15, 2006 at 12:35

I have completed my review of None Dare Call It Treason (the 1964 original). I must admit that I am a hard sell when it comes to conspiracy ideas, but this book really hit home. I was amazed at how many times the book mirrored my own personal thoughts about politics, the media, education, unionization, non-profit organizations, the ACLU, government agencies, mental health, religion, and the economy over the last 30 years. It compelled me take a deeper look at my education at home, at school, in church and via the media machine (TV, Newspapers, and the Internet).

To be honest, my parents were Democrats, especially my father. My mother loved J.F.K. (she graduated in 1960) and revered the whole F.D.R. era, as she was born in 1942 and her parents praised Franklin D. Roosevelt with saving the country from ruination. My father is a Democrat because of the unions and his believe that the unions represent the little man. He would argue regardless of the truth or the illogical foundation of his beliefs. As a kid I was raised to believe that F.D.R., Truman, Ike and J.F.K. wre heros to be praised daily. I broke with my parents as a teenager when I came to the conclusion that the liberal approach was, and still is, a complete farce that continually represses the mass of indigents through welfare and similar social programs and class division geared solely to continue public reliance on Democratic candidates who promise much and deliver little. I found the left to be lacking when it came to character and backbone. I still feel the same way to this very day.

This book really provoked a great deal of thought regarding my perspectives and my own beliefs (the chapter about the Economy and especially the subchapter Modern Republicanism). That is, there are many Republicans who are nothing more than Democrat Wolves in the preverbial Sheep's clothing. There are many Republicans who only side with the party when it means votes and party support come next election. There are many who are morally bankrupt and only use the conservative values platform as a means to gain a seat. They do not actually subscribe to any of the conservative prinicples relating to religion, education, character in office, or the economy.

I came to realize that maybe we are unable to really gauge how far we have degraded as a country unless we take a look at this book and the historical snapshots it presented then (1964) and the state of affairs we deal with today. I agree with Mr. Stormer that the church is attacked everyday and across all fronts. All the major issues of the day (homosexuality, divorce, abortion, pornography and the like) are designed to fracture the congragation of every church; even more so the Christian faith. Litlle by little we continue to lower the bar of decency. Few of us are surprised anymore or even shocked at horrific/heinous acts we see on TV. We are becoming numb to it all. The left has successfully attacked all forms of patriotism by exploiting the media. How many candidates from Conservative backgrounds get a fair shot in the media? How many are labled "Crackpots" for taking conservative stances or promoting God, Family, and Country? It is amazing that J. Stormer was able to pull it all together into one book. The argument he presents is a cogent one, butI still think the term conspiracy is a stretch. I can see the Power-of-One effect clearly (Felix Frankfurter and his disciples for example) and the overarching idea of continuous socialistic attacks against our nation and the social fabric as it existed before F.D.R. and his Supreme Court of choice. I think is important to acknowledge that all of the ideas J. Stormer presented were and are still plausable. Proving them is another matter. The references and statements cited in the book checked out. Yes, he sampled and left out those statements which appear to offer little tto he context of his arguments, but what author doesn't do that? The substance of those (...) did not negate or refute his main argument. Thus, I don't believe he can be accused of distorting the turth or omitting parts of various statements that might have cast a shadow on his argument.

Lastly, I leave you with this:

Imagine for a moment that the socialists/communists were successful in their slow and methodical dismemberment of our nation and the institutions upon which it was founded. Would we be able to realize it today, given how far our institutions have fallen? Can we really tell if we have been thoroughly enslaved if the only world we know is the one we live in today? J. Stormer's book is an excellent read regardless of your politics or your perspective regarding conspiracies. I think that if you hold the America of the pre-F.D.R. era and compare it to the America we live in now, it will probable make you sick to your stomach to see how many freedoms we have forfeited. As I write this, our government is asking for even greater control over our lives with illegal wire taps and invasion of privacy relating to the internet. God help us all.

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WHY NOT FASCISTIC INSTEAD OF COMMUNISTIC? [105 words]Joe HonickJan 26, 2019 11:55247352
8NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON [177 words]DebbieMay 9, 2012 20:55195539
1what is backstairs political literature? [130 words]decoraMar 12, 2011 21:51183352
6Stormer has been unfaithful to reality [162 words]JJ HonickDec 5, 2010 18:15180718
1treason as intentionality [180 words]richardMay 2, 2011 05:26180718
None Dare Call It Treason-25 years Later [182 words]JJ HonickMay 2, 2011 19:47180718
1the intentionality of treason [163 words]richardMay 4, 2011 01:01180718
None Dare Call It Treason-25 years Later [266 words]Joe HonickMay 4, 2011 18:06180718
4intentionality of treason [108 words]richardMay 6, 2011 01:47180718
2Reading book [17 words]GaryOct 1, 2010 15:47178874
3conspiracy, sedition, and treason defined [570 words]onesimusJan 13, 2008 11:46118078
1Treason Defined [246 words]Truth.TellerFeb 23, 2008 22:32118078
4History has proven..sadly ,,that the JBS is right all along.. [122 words]Nino BaldinoDec 2, 2008 16:04118078
John Perkins vis None dare.... [18 words]T.M. HartDec 5, 2008 11:37118078
So this is how democracy ends........ [16 words]J. FreemanMar 7, 2009 22:58118078
"100% Correct"? [91 words]Ernie LazarMar 27, 2009 10:10118078
1Onesimus Comments [171 words]Ernie LazarMar 27, 2009 10:18118078
2treason as intentionality [583 words]richardMay 2, 2011 05:07118078
A Bit Off the Mark, but Just a Bit [59 words]Long Time ConservativeDec 20, 2007 16:26116697
it all stacks up [61 words]paulDec 9, 2007 05:25115950
None Dare Call It Treason - how many sold? [54 words]AileenNov 7, 2007 14:18113348
None Dare Call It Treason [28 words]justin wizardOct 13, 2007 14:35111383
1It still goes on [119 words]Ted GriffinMay 28, 2007 07:4595001
I have this book [117 words]JonOct 16, 2007 06:4595001
2I read the original in the 60's [98 words]Dave in TexasNov 30, 2007 12:4795001
None Dare Call It Treason [18 words]A Son of LibertyNov 15, 2011 08:3295001
1FBI Evaluation of Birch Society Arguments [288 words]ernieNov 9, 2006 16:5965685
1I recall None Dare Call it Treason [232 words]PhilNov 18, 2005 20:5428605
Jury still out? [451 words]FrankJan 30, 2006 15:1028605
2Follow-up... as promised [870 words]FrankFeb 15, 2006 12:3528605
1Liberalism [141 words]Robert FultonFeb 18, 2006 00:3128605
1follow the money, you will know the truth.... [313 words]warren baconApr 16, 2006 10:0628605
1Greed is the root of treason [13 words]marilyn huntOct 7, 2006 19:4928605
2Marilyn Hunt has it backwards [55 words]Jake RobertsOct 3, 2007 10:3728605
1Very good analysis [106 words]ChampSep 11, 2009 04:3128605

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