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Deconstructing tablighhees in general and our dear Amin in particular!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 19, 2018 at 12:04

So our dear Amin unfolds as follows:

1. He tells us that early Islam was "peaceful and civilized"! When he was reminded that early Islam was neither peaceful nor civilized based of books of the Sira and the ahadith and Muslim historians.

2. He realized that he got caught with his pants down then he comes back and tells us that he is a Qur'an only Muslim! Then he was asked: OK then where can we find in the Qur'an that Muslims should pray 5 times per day (the Qur'an says that Muslims should pray 3 times per day) and where can we find male circumcision mentioned in the Qur'an (the Qur'an is silent about male circumcision!) we never get an answer

3. When he was told if you reject the hadith then you should reject the Qur'an too after all his Allah says that the Qur'an is Hadith! And to add insult to injury Hafs whose copy of the Qur'an is the one used by most Muslims but his Ahadith (pl of Hadith) are rejected! The reason? because he was a liar! So why should we accept his version of the Qur'an? We never get an answer

4. And when confronted with facts he comes up with the argument that this forum is "not the place" and when he was reminded that this is not his blog we never get an answer

5. When confronted with Quranic verses that refute his claims he came up with the crazy argument "but Arabic is a difficult language" If it is such a difficult language (which it is not) then why did Allah reveal his "last" book in a difficult language? We never get an answer

6. When confronted about his bogus claim that al-Injil (Allah's name for the NT) was written in Aramaic he was reminded that al-Injil is a loan word from Greek , and it is not an Arabic word, and that the NT was written in Greek with Aramaic sentences and words not unlike the Qur'an we never get an answer

7. When he complained about the many translations of the OT and NT he was reminded that there is a whole industry by tablighhees who translate the Qur'an from Arabic to English and they are all poor translations. We never get an answer

8. Then he tells us that Medina was a "cosmopolitan" city! I asked him to provide with evidence! I never got an answer

9. Oh and back to "Islam is peace" when he is reminded that he must be an Ahamdee and their bogus "Love for all and hatred for non" is a joke (oh excuse me I need to puke) he tells us that he is not an Ahmadee but he really sounds like one. And when he was reminded that millions of his Hindu ancestors were murdered by the Muslim invaders of India! He became silent

10 Oh and he comes up with the silly "misinformed" but would he refute what I wrote? He never did

11. And when he realized that some of us kuffar can read Arabic and can refute his nonsense that he learned in his madrasa and through reading the liar Ahmad Deedat he asks: "Who are you" and I told him my name is really Muhammad no more! And I must be the Muhammad mentioned in the Bible! I never got an answer

12. And when he claimed that he can read the Qur'an I reminded him that we have more than one version of the Qur'an (eg: Warsh, Hafs, Qaloon) so which one does he read and which version does Allah have in his al-Lawh al-Mahfuz? I never got an answer

13. Oh and more delusions he suggested that we meet for a debate face to face! That will be OK and my pre-conditions? I fly first class via al-Buraq with champagne and bacon served by Allah's Hur! I never got an answer

13. And when nothing works he wrote:

"I will not waste my time with anybody hiding behind a fictitious user name."

And he is running away

I'm not surprised


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England Safe Haven [102 words]Amin RefaatMay 7, 2018 16:36242894
4Our dear Amin is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! [153 words]dhimmi no moreMay 9, 2018 07:00242894
Misinformed [300 words]Amin RefaatMay 10, 2018 13:52242894
Our dear Amin Refaat is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! Part Two [472 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2018 06:33242894
Our dear Amin Refaat is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! Part 3 [539 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2018 07:39242894
Our dear Amin is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! Part 4 [400 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2018 09:36242894
Our dear Amin is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! Part 5 [392 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2018 10:18242894
Our dear Amin is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! Part 6 [335 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2018 10:38242894
Our dear Amin: The satanic verses and other sordid matters! [245 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2018 06:55242894
1Amin Refaat's suggestion is definitely impractical and probably incorrect [739 words]PrashantMay 13, 2018 17:48242894
Thank You [565 words]Amin RefaatMay 14, 2018 15:11242894
Our dear Amin is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! Part 7 [149 words]dhimmi no moreMay 14, 2018 15:51242894
Why did your ancestors convert to Islam our dear Amin? [91 words]dhimmi no moreMay 14, 2018 16:02242894
1Our dear Amin and what is a true religion! [380 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2018 06:11242894
Our dear Amin must agree with me that a true religion must have a perfect book! Right our dear Amin? Well let us read together and laugh [358 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2018 12:35242894
Our dear Amin: Style and no Substance! [521 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2018 15:34242894
Thank You [91 words]Amin RefaatMay 15, 2018 15:59242894
Our dear Amin: Style and no Substance! Part 2 [938 words]dhimmi no moreMay 16, 2018 06:52242894
Our dear Amin cannot speak read or write texts in Arabic! Right our dear Amin? [572 words]dhimmi no moreMay 16, 2018 16:26242894
Not the Place [82 words]Amin RefaatMay 16, 2018 17:12242894
Islam and Arabic [179 words]PrashantMay 17, 2018 00:25242894
Our dear Amin and the argument from but this is not the place! [138 words]dhimmi no moreMay 17, 2018 06:10242894
Our dear Amin wrote: " I am a Quranic Muslim" Part one [112 words]dhimmi no moreMay 17, 2018 06:55242894
Holly Book [88 words]Amin RefaatMay 17, 2018 14:31242894
أَحْسَنَ الْحَدِيثِ [34 words]Amin RefaatMay 17, 2018 14:36242894
Our dear Amin who cannot read speak or write Arabic is Qur'an only! Mash'allah [475 words]dhimmi no moreMay 17, 2018 16:48242894
Our dear Amin is repeating Maududi's nonsense without any critical examination of Maududi's bogus claims! [233 words]dhimmi no moreMay 18, 2018 05:56242894
Our dear Amin I'm waiting for my ticket to fly on al-Buraq! [112 words]dhimmi no moreMay 18, 2018 06:05242894
Who Are You? [25 words]Amin RefaatMay 18, 2018 15:25242894
Guiding the perplexed our dear Amin and لا تقربوا الصلاة and the Qur'an is raelly a hadith! So do you reject the Qur'an too? [330 words]dhimmi no moreMay 18, 2018 16:30242894
Our dear Amin does not get it that translations of the Qur'an are a waste of time because the Qur'an is an Arabic text for Arabs [357 words]dhimmi no moreMay 18, 2018 16:46242894
Our dear Amin is running away! [172 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2018 06:37242894
Who are you امين رفعت? Oh امين رفعت? Amin Refaat [41 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2018 06:49242894
Our dear Amin: Before you run away where can we find in the Qur'an that Medina was a "cosmopolitan" city in the time of Muhammad! [92 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2018 07:46242894
Deconstructing tablighhees in general and our dear Amin in particular! [686 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2018 12:04242894
Our dear Amin the Quran only: Congratulations but you just left Islam! [352 words]dhimmi no moreMay 20, 2018 10:41242894
Our dear Amin would you like more evidence from the Qur'an that it is no more than a Hadith? [143 words]dhimmi no moreMay 21, 2018 07:54242894
Our dear Amin the Qur'an only Muslim: Answer my questions before you run away! [211 words]dhimmi no moreMay 25, 2018 15:59242894
1Here is another example why many Muslims are now Qur'an only Muslims: The "Seek Knowledge Even in China" Hadith! [225 words]dhimmi no moreJun 4, 2018 08:24242894
A question, why the concern? [13 words]Carl LeyhMar 14, 2018 20:02242479
Missed the point [18 words]HistorianMar 23, 2018 00:46242479
Who Established Saudi Arabia? [65 words]Sohel BahjatFeb 21, 2018 12:09242339
2Our dear Sohel Bahjat told us once that Iran is really a democracy! No I'm not kidding! [306 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 22, 2018 08:00242339
1Iran is not a democracy [29 words]PrashantFeb 22, 2018 21:00242339
4If British made Saudi Arabia, they made a huge mistake [89 words]PrashantFeb 22, 2018 21:06242339
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Keep calm and carry on [152 words]
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JeffFeb 6, 2018 12:09242107
4Here is an easy problem for your reader Jeff [174 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2018 00:37242107
Hi Prashant [205 words]JeffFeb 7, 2018 22:36242107
1My thanks to your reader Jeff [126 words]PrashantFeb 8, 2018 22:34242107
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A gradual takeover [136 words]NightandDayFeb 5, 2018 22:45242093
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