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Our dear Amin is saying that the original Islam was peaceful and civilized! No I'm not kidding! Part 4

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 12, 2018 at 09:36

Our dear Amin wrote this little gem:

>3. Verses of the sword are limited to the time of Muhammad and after his death they became just a historical record

Really? Then I have two questions:

1. Where would I find in the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic:

ان اية السيف انزلت لعصر محمد فقط وانها نسخت بعد عصر محمد

Or the sword verse was revealed for the time of Muhammad only then it was abrogated

You will not find it

2. But according to your flawed logic this means that Islam was neither "peaceful" nor "civilized" at least in the time of Muhammad!

3. It also means that Ibn Kathir must be a liar because he wrote in his tafsir of Ayat al-Sayf or 9:5 is وهذه الآية الكريمة هي آية السيف or this verse is the Sword Verse Then he wrote

إنها نسخت كل عهد بين النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - وبين أحد من المشركين

Or: It (Ayat al-Sayf) ABROGATED every treaty between the prophet (the so called) صلعم and the polytheists

BTW the polytheists are not just the Jews and Christians (Q9:30) but also Hindus, Buddhists Jains and in short any non Muslim

More disasters from Ibn Kathir? Then he writes:

وكل عهد ، وكل مدة

Or (Ayat al-Sayf) is valid for every time and period!

It means that according to you Ibn Kathir ayat al-sayf was valid for ALL TIMES AND PLACES! So was Ibn Kathir a liar?!

So much for the bogus claim that Ayat al-Sayf was only valid in the time of Muhammad

3. But most damaging to your case millions of your Hindu ancestors were murdered by the sword because they were regarded as polytheists! Long time after Muhammad died!

>but blood thirsty Wahhabis use them to manipulate their followers to become Jihadists.

Well the Qur'an says that Islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only Oh you don't believe me? Then check Q14:4 where your so called Allah says:

وما ارسلنا من رسول الا بلسان قومه

This means that Allah sent Muhammad to the Hijazi Arabs only because he was an Arab and he spoke Arabic This means that Islam is the religion of the Wahhabis only

So who was the Rasul that was sent to your Hindu ancestors from among the 124,000 prophets that Allah sent because he was not Muhammad?

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