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Submitted by M Tovey (United States), Oct 28, 2016 at 15:30

As this is being written, the word out in the media realm is that Madam Secretary Clinton may have her FBI investigation reviewed to determine if new evidence supports the notion that not all the facts have been thoroughly, properly, and even legally analyzed to the full extent of the law. Does this mean that Candidate Trump may get the nudge needed to defy the polls and pundits? That remains to be seen.

The principle difficulty for the electorate is that things have not been what they needed to be for the center mass of 'we the people,' such that choices like that facing real voters are couched in empty promises and plain out-in-out and deceit of empty promises never fulfilled. So much money taken and spent on the people's behalf and what is there left to show for it (?)-nothing.
Things politically cannot get too much worse, if even that is possible, given the current circumstances. The fermentation of outrageously bad politics has completely turned many nose-blinded. Put some potpourri around the edges and light a candle before making that choice.
The 'Christian' duty to government is set out like this: (Rom 13:1) Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2) Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
But this requires that the government be responsible to adhere to the truth of the Almighty and judgment comes to the government that deals badly with the people that the Almighty has promised to protect. Most sensible people know how well this verse is not listened to by those who abuse power for ambitions' sake.
If we couch the terms of this election as seeking the better good for the people, we are already faced with the proposition that half the country thinks the democrats are better positioned than the other half; and vice versa, being nearly equally split. Rigging aside, what will tip the scales?
The anti-Trump sentiments as espoused by Paul Ryan and his camp seem to think that they were somewhat thwarted in the primary process; and if they were guided by 'Caritas in(et) Veritas' thinking, it is not hard for this outside observer to understand why-they were as much a part of the problem even as they thought they had a solution. This was seen in the failed candidacies of those who are still stumped by Trump.

The final observation of this round is that even if Trump does pull the rabbit out of the hat, the implausible task of impeaching him would mean what many have thought all along - the Republican party failed to have the people's best interests and failed to protect them when they needed charity in truth the most.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
You Get What You Deserve [124 words]Barry BlackDec 9, 2016 17:00234603
Receiving What is Deserved Versus Receiving What is Undeserved [530 words]M ToveyDec 19, 2016 13:43234603
Not in the interest of the people to impeach Trump [163 words]MikeDec 5, 2016 19:11234524
It's now our duty, for the sake of peace in our country, to accept the results. [144 words]
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Michael SDec 7, 2016 07:11234524
Thank God for Donald Trump. Too bad, David Brooks [40 words]Michael SNov 23, 2016 18:38234237
Seconding Michael S's propsithion [224 words]PrashantNov 26, 2016 01:38234237
1I agree completely with Prashant [284 words]Michael SNov 27, 2016 00:05234237
The New York Times? What is the New York Times? [167 words]dhimmi no moreNov 29, 2016 09:37234237
News is disappearing, along with newspapers. [240 words]Michael SDec 1, 2016 01:21234237
The end of MSM? [103 words]dhimmi no moreDec 4, 2016 07:44234237
Millions of NeverTrump People Try to Sway Electoral College [22 words]PezDispenserNov 12, 2016 12:48234004
Electors Mad As Hell And Not Wanting To Take It Anymore [493 words]M ToveyNov 15, 2016 15:40234004
Still too soon, to predict 2017 [295 words]Michael SDec 10, 2016 03:17234004
Preparation for Deliverance [263 words]M ToveyDec 12, 2016 11:23234004
If this global warming keeps up, we'll all freeze to death! [229 words]Michael SDec 19, 2016 03:51234004
Global Warming Not the Real Problem_What's Hiding Behind the Dark Clouds Is.... [359 words]M ToveyDec 20, 2016 13:29234004
Time to get our heavenly passports in order [455 words]Michael SDec 22, 2016 21:38234004
6My deepest condolences [34 words]Michael SNov 12, 2016 10:31233998
2A brilliant campaign, the policies America needs [202 words]Px FragonardNov 2, 2016 00:27233765
1Your reading of Obama [71 words]CARLOS DESOUZANov 5, 2016 03:01233765
Trump has won [272 words]Kepha HorNov 17, 2016 16:49233765
Stand for America [377 words]RuthOct 30, 2016 05:17233702
4The Reality [69 words]KathyOct 29, 2016 23:59233697
Irrational choice [89 words]BorisGOct 26, 2016 16:29233643
Nothing Rational This Time About American Electoral Choices [413 words]M ToveyNov 3, 2016 11:11233643
Trump Presidency opens possibilities [230 words]Michael SNov 13, 2016 15:17233643
Possibilities of a Resurgent America - Is the World All that Eager to Allow an American Comeback? [341 words]M ToveyNov 15, 2016 13:26233643
The most likely scenario [286 words]Michael SOct 25, 2016 15:14233610
5Forest for the trees or baby with the bath water [113 words]Reid Canada/USAOct 24, 2016 13:36233572
2Nixon v McGovern 1972 [225 words]dhimmi no moreOct 23, 2016 10:45233551
1An even better solution [129 words]
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Daniel RubioOct 22, 2016 11:40233537
Not the whole election stinks. [57 words]Daniel RubioOct 24, 2016 14:37233537
2Hillary rudely treated police officers as her personal servants [81 words]
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Joe (USA)Oct 22, 2016 00:08233514
3Clinton Horror V Trump Mystery. [191 words]Klee GluckmanOct 29, 2016 07:10233514
Hold nose & vote for the Impeachable Trump [187 words]Joe (USA)Oct 21, 2016 23:57233513
....potpourri and lit candles.... [476 words]M ToveyOct 28, 2016 15:30233513
3Commentary makes no sense [57 words]
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ESOct 20, 2016 23:32233502
The waning of American influence [90 words]TimOct 23, 2016 07:54233502
1Voting dilemma [365 words]NealaOct 20, 2016 05:52233490
3With all due respect to Mr. Pence [400 words]JoeOct 19, 2016 15:30233487
1Fantastic !! [24 words]CARLOS DESOUZAOct 30, 2016 06:52233487
1Impeach Hillary? [65 words]
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donOct 19, 2016 12:30233484
4Wrong, wrong, wrong [29 words]
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HaroldOct 19, 2016 10:39233483
Logic Flees Where Matters of the Heart are in Contention [367 words]M ToveyOct 27, 2016 15:58233483
So you are supporting Trump, Mr Pipes? ... [107 words]MattOct 19, 2016 00:03233472
2Strong business man who needs to learn government vs. a crook [98 words]Yechiel ShlipshonOct 18, 2016 18:44233467
3What Does it matter ? REALLY ? [412 words]Stephen HughesOct 18, 2016 17:25233465
Repudiation [103 words]Paul RothbergOct 18, 2016 17:25233464
re impeachment [175 words]Kepha HorOct 18, 2016 16:07233458
What's a Conservative To Do? [46 words]Judith DaviesOct 18, 2016 16:03233457
2Upholding the Constitution that our forefathers set forth [268 words]COct 18, 2016 12:46233454
On further reflection, where will foreign policy and defense go? [96 words]
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RDOct 18, 2016 12:22233453
Vote for Trump [81 words]Arthur CopelandOct 18, 2016 10:57233451
1An alternative approach [91 words]Tom O'RourkeOct 18, 2016 10:32233449
rooting for Trump to win [61 words]
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Peter ChewOct 18, 2016 10:09233448
1Whats A Conservative to do? Vote for Mike Pence [309 words]Anne- USAOct 18, 2016 08:02233446
1Pence isn't running for President, Trump is. [15 words]Marla HughesOct 18, 2016 07:52233443
Wishful thinking? [62 words]
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PezDispenserOct 18, 2016 01:36233427
6NeverTrumpers are voting for Hillary [81 words]dianneOct 17, 2016 22:12233423
It's a binary world, it seems .. [39 words]Anne JulienneOct 18, 2016 04:35233423
3Have we come to this? [84 words]
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Rich McOct 17, 2016 19:26233417
3Write in for Pence-- Not the right answer [165 words]Ed YandekOct 17, 2016 18:50233413
Disagree with your statement about Hillary being a good POTUS [217 words]Stephen ClaytonOct 18, 2016 01:42233413
4Helping Hillary [7 words]DanOct 17, 2016 18:47233412
1A deafening wall of silence!! [156 words]Shelley RainsOct 17, 2016 18:30233411
Konspiracy King should not be Prez even for a day [76 words]David FunkeOct 17, 2016 17:27233408
3Trump will change and exceed himself. [97 words]Brutus BalanOct 17, 2016 17:13233406
3Don't write off Trump...he will be like Samson. [289 words]Ger. COct 20, 2016 10:24233406
A very sensible comment [103 words]Brutus BalanOct 22, 2016 01:56233406
2After four years the Rep could "dump" Trump if unhappy! [161 words]stevenlOct 17, 2016 16:53233405
disappointing .. [187 words]Anne JulienneOct 17, 2016 16:52233404
7Trumps negatives not 1/100th of Hillary's [533 words]Alec RawlsOct 17, 2016 16:50233402
Brilliant reply, Alec !! [13 words]CARLOS DESOUZANov 4, 2016 11:45233402
1The American Tragedy - Conservatism Hitting Iceberg of American Voter Apathy [392 words]M ToveyOct 17, 2016 16:41233401
3Can't vote for Hillary [326 words]Stephen ClaytonOct 17, 2016 16:16233399
7You are Voting for Hillary [116 words]AJOct 17, 2016 16:07233398
2Pence is not running [58 words]RdolginOct 17, 2016 15:50233396
1Election Signals Cultural Decline [190 words]DaveOct 17, 2016 15:38233395
This will tear the democratic party apart [126 words]Lars NielsenOct 17, 2016 15:24233394
1Perspective; SOUNDS A LOT LIKE HUSSEIN. [63 words]MarkOct 17, 2016 14:52233393
6Whats a conservative to do ? [29 words]F.ThorntonOct 17, 2016 14:14233392
Vote for Pence [24 words]dmavinOct 18, 2016 08:00233392
5dont write in Mike Pence [64 words]jay aOct 17, 2016 13:53233390

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