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ياأمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم Ignorance and half knowledge and other sordid matters

Reader comment on item: ISIS Justifies Its Yazidi Slaves
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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 31, 2014 at 18:32

Our dear Observer who really has no knowledge of the history of the Middle East since the Arab invasion starting in 633CE wrote

If the pre-modern Islamic legal tradition justifies this appalling treatment of Yazidis, as you claim, then how come so many Yazidis lived undisturbed for centuries in those lands, under Muslim rule, until now?

This is like the silly question that Indian Muslims pose and it is as follows if the Muslim invaders of India murdered raped and enslaved millions of Hindus then how come we still have Hidnus left to this day right our dear observer?

But where is your evidence that the Yazidis "lived undisturbed" for the past 1400 years? Are you for real? Hint: the Yazidis report 72 genocides committed against them since they started to count as per Vian Dakhil and watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdIEm1s6yhY

Now it is your chance to tell her that she is wrong and that the Yazidis lived very well under Islam and i can assure you that she will think that you are a funny guy our dear Observer

And check the wonderful Matthew Barber's twitter feed

https://twitter.com/Matthew__Barber

He is the one who knows the most about the Yazidis and their persecution under Islam Da'ish included and tweet him and ask him your silly question how did they survive for 1400 years under islamic and Arabian imperialism and they did survive like all minorities in the Middle East not because of the tolerance of Muslims and Islam but it was despite of Islam just like your ancestors the Hindus who survived the murder of millions of Hindus

As for Mount Sinjar (and compare this in the case of the Maronites with Jabal Libnan or Mount Lebanon): mountains in the Middle East were regarded as a refuge from Muslims when these minorities were attacked

As for the Ottomans the Yazidis were targeted by the Barbarian Ottomans and here read this

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140809-iraq-yazidis-minority-isil-religion-history/

Muslims, the Ottomans included, call the Yazidis "devil worshipers" when in actual fact the devil worshipers must be those that follow an Arabian deity who tells his followers to murder polytheists in his name and those that murdered millions of Armenians and Syrians and Greeks and Yazidis

Even the Ottomans, as far as I know, left them be as long as they

Where is your evidence?

payed their taxes.a

Oh you mean the mafia tax al-Jizya? Well Yazidis cannot pay this mafia tax just like your Hindu ancestors because they are not supposed to be part of ahl al-kitab what ever that is

And I don't care what some premodern jurists say, they have no right to speak for all of Islam, and I'm sure there were many other jurists who provided differing opinions.

"Differing opinions" really? can you name names?

Given that you claim to be knowledgeable about Islam, you should know that there are differing opinions within the legal tradtion on a variety of issues.

Masha'allah listen I cannot speak for Dr Pipes but I can assure you that he knows a thing or two about Islam? You? That is a different story

But Islam should not be limited to simple legalism. These "scholars" were writing for a scholarly elite - how many of their views were applied widely in society for a long period of time?

What are you talking about?

You're forgetting that many ordinary Muslims who lived their faith did not leave written records like these jurists, over the centuries.

Drivel

There was a big gap between the theory of the jurists and actual practice in society in Muslim history.

More drivel

But with that being said, I see all of this as a case of the chickens coming home to roost. The wrongs and injustices these so-called scholars committed in the name of Islam for centuries - their disgusting legal views, their siding with political power - have gone unchallenged by most Muslims for a long time (I would say more out of neglect, fear, or lack of ability, rather than acquiescence), and in the 20/21st centuries, it has reached a boiling point.

You are not even an Arab you are an Indian or Pakistani Muslim which makes you a follower of the Arabs and the arabs are happy with the way things are

If it were up to me, I'd take all the books of fiqh and burn them. Because that's what they deserve.

I do not believe you for a minute

Oh ياأمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم? You can ask your Mullah if he knows Arabic to tell you what this wonderful saying means

For the readers it means: O you nation (Muslims) the other nations laugh at you because of your ignorance

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