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Yes, they are more "anti-modern" than religious; but the root is avarice and hurt pride

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Nov 5, 2014 at 10:25

Kreshnik,

You certainly have an esoteric reading list -- either that, or (and this is very likely) I have become "esoteric" merely by advancing in years. Dugin was 9 years old when I was in my Radical heyday; and I had never heard of Evola until now.

Yes, much, probably most, of the uproar today in the Islamic world is probably a reaction to "modernism" (which is almost interchangeable with what "Western Civilization" has become); and yes, it has not "paid off" well for them. I think that looking at the current situation from this angle is far more instructive, than seeing it as an "Islamic" or "Sectarian" phenomenon.

As I said, it seems that "Western Civilization", as the world sees it (in movies, TV, the Internet, commercial products, etc.) is anything resembling Christianity and Judaism, the traditional enemies of Islam. Our Judaeo-Christian history gets dredged up in sloganeering, in words such as "Crusaders", etc.; but I think most Muslims see us in terms of our materialist trappings; and notice that we are the "haves" and they are the "have-nots". A rejection of our whole materialist, hedonistic, "modern" culture is therefore an effective emolient to salve their hurt pride and avarice.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
1It seems that the Islamic state is floundering [89 words]dhimmi no moreDec 5, 2014 09:08219640
1The fate of the Christians in Iraq [98 words]dhimmi no moreNov 28, 2014 08:54219524
2The BBC and the Yazidis and other sordid matters including "Trending" and being PC [177 words]
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dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2014 12:20219514
Isis justifies Yaziti slaves......This is what pagan cultures do. [80 words]AnneNov 7, 2014 08:29219208
Universal Law or Temporal Will [45 words]
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CzeslawOct 24, 2014 09:40218899
Evolution? No, a big party. [123 words]Michael S.Oct 28, 2014 06:59218899
1Muhammad had the slaves [38 words]CzeslawOct 24, 2014 05:49218892
1If that's the case... [285 words]
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ObserverOct 23, 2014 11:17218885
2Separate but equal [217 words]PrashantOct 24, 2014 23:43218885
3ياأمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم Ignorance and half knowledge and other sordid matters [782 words]dhimmi no moreOct 31, 2014 18:32218885
4Documented atrocities and genocides inflicted on the Yazidis by the Arab invaders and the Ottomans [226 words]dhimmi no moreNov 1, 2014 09:36218885
1Is this then a revolt against modernity? [71 words]KreshnikOct 21, 2014 16:50218865
1Re: Is this a revolt against modernity? [447 words]ObserverOct 24, 2014 23:49218865
Yes, they are more "anti-modern" than religious; but the root is avarice and hurt pride [201 words]Michael SNov 5, 2014 10:25218865
3Appalled - really? [56 words]ECAWOct 19, 2014 11:48218830
1Outrage against slavery is hypocritical [159 words]Michael S.Oct 26, 2014 06:44218830
slavery [113 words]ECAWOct 28, 2014 04:21218830
1Why is it so difficult to understand that past wrongs do not justify current wrongs? [90 words]PrashantOct 28, 2014 17:48218830
If Muslims must adopt Christian standards, then perhaps it should also work the other way around. [210 words]Michael S.Oct 31, 2014 07:13218830
4The author of the Qur'an and slavery [195 words]dhimmi no moreNov 2, 2014 09:10218830
5Our dear Michael S is saying we kuffar should not be critical of Da'ish for enslaving Yazidi women! [198 words]dhimmi no moreNov 3, 2014 07:16218830
Slavery in Perspective [870 words]Michael S.Nov 3, 2014 08:48218830
1Correction. [684 words]Michael S.Nov 4, 2014 23:52218830
re-stating my position [613 words]Michael S.Nov 5, 2014 01:05218830
1What is really Genocide? Tell us please [79 words]dhimmi no moreNov 6, 2014 16:24218830
2Those that deny the Armenian genocide should be ashamed of themselves [300 words]dhimmi no moreNov 6, 2014 16:57218830
Those who deny the Holocaust have some screws loose [60 words]Michael S.Nov 9, 2014 03:28218830
The Armenians, and you, are looking for excuses to attack Jews. [115 words]Michael S.Nov 9, 2014 03:34218830
2differing opinnions [396 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahNov 14, 2014 07:45218830
2He is beyond help [478 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2014 13:25218830
1Guiding the perplexed and Armenians phobia [249 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2014 13:37218830
2Getting to know Michael S!! [210 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2014 17:55218830
facts are facts [303 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahNov 21, 2014 23:09218830
The Bible accepted slavery as existing but never endorsed it [130 words]nan davisNov 2, 2015 21:59218830
Solomon difd many things whiuch displeased God [733 words]nan davisNov 2, 2015 23:28218830
I don't wish to justify ISIS [35 words]Michael SNov 4, 2015 15:13218830
1Learn From ISIS's Successes and Failures [165 words]DaveOct 17, 2014 21:40218801
1Yazidis should try to reach Israel or India [188 words]PrashantOct 17, 2014 21:19218800
1An Offered Choice: I Set Before You Life; or death; Choose You This Day Whom You Will Serve [425 words]M. ToveyOct 17, 2014 15:54218788
1"actions appall the overwhelming majority, Muslim and not"? [58 words]
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MarkOct 17, 2014 08:09218778
2Where are the useful idiots the likes of Ben Affleck? [17 words]dhimmi no moreOct 17, 2014 07:57218777
Useful Idiots Unmasked [20 words]Young MCOct 19, 2014 05:45218777
Iraq, Radical Islam. [43 words]EmanuelOct 17, 2014 05:49218773
ISIS popular support [41 words]Patrick LaubreauxOct 16, 2014 23:43218770
A slight inconsistency? [210 words]
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Ron ThompsonOct 16, 2014 23:27218769
If it's actions appall the majority, what of the high levels of support for ISIS in France? [88 words]
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Anon.Oct 16, 2014 22:38218768
1Religion of Peace???? [90 words]Krazy ChickOct 16, 2014 22:19218767

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