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Submitted by nan davis (United States), Nov 2, 2015 at 23:28

You are misunderstanding the Old Testament of the Bible, intensely. I recommend getting a copy of two study Bibles which explain well verses which can be twisted by those who are not scholars or who wish to impeach Christianity or Judaism. One is The Apologetics Study Bible. The other is the Archaelogical Study Bible. Both give clarity and have explanations written by scholars from many different Christian denomonations who have come together with explantions which can be read and understood by anyone who is not a Christian or Jew. For commintted Muslims, Aethiists and others, it will enlighten them as to what others beleive and why, even though the Muslim or Arthiest or other has no interst in beleiving the message of the religion. ( I read the Koran and other religious books for this same purpose.)

There are MANY historical events described in the Bible which are NOT God's decision or will (and in fact illustrate the concept of mankind's free will). Even prophets of the Old Testament made errors and sinned. Thier sins and their Godly works are told. When a KIng made a decision, that was NOT a decision made by God. In the case of Solomon, he was a sinner. Though he was a brilliant man, he made decisions having to do with his conquered enemies which were HIS decisions alone. You must remember that this period is not a modern period either, so many things which we know today were not even known. There were no antibiotics, the proper cooking of pork unknown and all the rest. God did not give us automatic knowledge of the sciences, he allowed us free will to discover and learn. The Bible, for example told the Hebrews how to treat various diseases, which no modern physicians would apply today. These sort of historic and descriptive passages are not to be read as God given dictates. They are to be read as historic passages.

You know in the case of Solomon, he fell out of grace with God for many reasons. He was a man full of sin. Type in ....Kings 11- Solomon's Decline and Death When you read some of the many sins including his sins of the flesh for having so many wives, maybe you will understand. But then, maybe you do not wish to understand that the Bible is partly just historical events and often those events were man made and wrong in God's eyes.

In any case, contrast in ancient times the custom of enslaving those who have lost a war (and women were given some respect even in that horrible situation....please read...Exodus 21:8

In that verse it clearly states that if a man takes a slave as a wife and she does not please him...HE MAY NOT sell her. He must free her (redeem her). Since he did not fullfil the contraxt of marriage, his penatly was to free her.

Also read Deuternnomy 21:10-14. Enslaved women taken from the defeated and desired ny a Jew for a wife were given a month of mourning and had to shave their heads and trim nails (to take away their beaiuy temporarily). This month was a cooling off period for the man. No intercourse was allowed. If he then still mayy's her and it does not work out...he MUST free her and NOT trear her badly.

in any case, Christians and Jews realized 200 years ago that slavery was wrong (free will). We realized this even before we knew not to "bleed" people when they were ill and before we realized that women should be educated to the same level as men and were as smart and capable as men.

Never in the Bible is a stiuation diescribed where Jews purposely went to an area ONLY to kill all the men to take all of the women to be sex slaves to be passed around to at least 11 men and gang raped.

That is exactly was ISIS did. There was no oil or other riches in the area of Mount Shingal except for pretty blond women. These evil ISIS men went there ONLY to get women to rape and abuse and murder ....if they do not do the abominabl e sexual acts they beat them into. Some of the women have escaped and told the story. Others are just missing. You are hust plain wrong. There is no doubke standard


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1It seems that the Islamic state is floundering [89 words]dhimmi no moreDec 5, 2014 09:08219640
1The fate of the Christians in Iraq [98 words]dhimmi no moreNov 28, 2014 08:54219524
2The BBC and the Yazidis and other sordid matters including "Trending" and being PC [177 words]
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dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2014 12:20219514
Isis justifies Yaziti slaves......This is what pagan cultures do. [80 words]AnneNov 7, 2014 08:29219208
Universal Law or Temporal Will [45 words]
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CzeslawOct 24, 2014 09:40218899
Evolution? No, a big party. [123 words]Michael S.Oct 28, 2014 06:59218899
1Muhammad had the slaves [38 words]CzeslawOct 24, 2014 05:49218892
1If that's the case... [285 words]
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ObserverOct 23, 2014 11:17218885
2Separate but equal [217 words]PrashantOct 24, 2014 23:43218885
3ياأمة ضحكت من جهلها الامم Ignorance and half knowledge and other sordid matters [782 words]dhimmi no moreOct 31, 2014 18:32218885
4Documented atrocities and genocides inflicted on the Yazidis by the Arab invaders and the Ottomans [226 words]dhimmi no moreNov 1, 2014 09:36218885
1Is this then a revolt against modernity? [71 words]KreshnikOct 21, 2014 16:50218865
1Re: Is this a revolt against modernity? [447 words]ObserverOct 24, 2014 23:49218865
Yes, they are more "anti-modern" than religious; but the root is avarice and hurt pride [201 words]Michael SNov 5, 2014 10:25218865
3Appalled - really? [56 words]ECAWOct 19, 2014 11:48218830
1Outrage against slavery is hypocritical [159 words]Michael S.Oct 26, 2014 06:44218830
slavery [113 words]ECAWOct 28, 2014 04:21218830
1Why is it so difficult to understand that past wrongs do not justify current wrongs? [90 words]PrashantOct 28, 2014 17:48218830
If Muslims must adopt Christian standards, then perhaps it should also work the other way around. [210 words]Michael S.Oct 31, 2014 07:13218830
4The author of the Qur'an and slavery [195 words]dhimmi no moreNov 2, 2014 09:10218830
5Our dear Michael S is saying we kuffar should not be critical of Da'ish for enslaving Yazidi women! [198 words]dhimmi no moreNov 3, 2014 07:16218830
Slavery in Perspective [870 words]Michael S.Nov 3, 2014 08:48218830
1Correction. [684 words]Michael S.Nov 4, 2014 23:52218830
re-stating my position [613 words]Michael S.Nov 5, 2014 01:05218830
1What is really Genocide? Tell us please [79 words]dhimmi no moreNov 6, 2014 16:24218830
2Those that deny the Armenian genocide should be ashamed of themselves [300 words]dhimmi no moreNov 6, 2014 16:57218830
Those who deny the Holocaust have some screws loose [60 words]Michael S.Nov 9, 2014 03:28218830
The Armenians, and you, are looking for excuses to attack Jews. [115 words]Michael S.Nov 9, 2014 03:34218830
2differing opinnions [396 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahNov 14, 2014 07:45218830
2He is beyond help [478 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2014 13:25218830
1Guiding the perplexed and Armenians phobia [249 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2014 13:37218830
2Getting to know Michael S!! [210 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2014 17:55218830
facts are facts [303 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahNov 21, 2014 23:09218830
The Bible accepted slavery as existing but never endorsed it [130 words]nan davisNov 2, 2015 21:59218830
Solomon difd many things whiuch displeased God [733 words]nan davisNov 2, 2015 23:28218830
I don't wish to justify ISIS [35 words]Michael SNov 4, 2015 15:13218830
1Learn From ISIS's Successes and Failures [165 words]DaveOct 17, 2014 21:40218801
1Yazidis should try to reach Israel or India [188 words]PrashantOct 17, 2014 21:19218800
1An Offered Choice: I Set Before You Life; or death; Choose You This Day Whom You Will Serve [425 words]M. ToveyOct 17, 2014 15:54218788
1"actions appall the overwhelming majority, Muslim and not"? [58 words]
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MarkOct 17, 2014 08:09218778
2Where are the useful idiots the likes of Ben Affleck? [17 words]dhimmi no moreOct 17, 2014 07:57218777
Useful Idiots Unmasked [20 words]Young MCOct 19, 2014 05:45218777
Iraq, Radical Islam. [43 words]EmanuelOct 17, 2014 05:49218773
ISIS popular support [41 words]Patrick LaubreauxOct 16, 2014 23:43218770
A slight inconsistency? [210 words]
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Ron ThompsonOct 16, 2014 23:27218769
If it's actions appall the majority, what of the high levels of support for ISIS in France? [88 words]
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Anon.Oct 16, 2014 22:38218768
1Religion of Peace???? [90 words]Krazy ChickOct 16, 2014 22:19218767

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