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Submitted by Debanjan Banerjee (India), Jul 30, 2013 at 11:39

"And why should they fulfill this wish list of yours. You dont seem to understand what is meant by conviction.If killing Pakistani children is their conviction then they are standing by their convictions arent they!"

Myself : These so-called Islamic dissenters need to show that they are not hypocritical when they talk about human rights issues they need to prove their point by criticising where it is valid to criticise the West. As long as they do not do that they will be considered hypocritical by the Islamic world in general.

You also seem to suggest that these people support the killing of innocent Pakistani children by drones.

"Just FYI Ayaan Hirsi Ali isnt a Christian fundamentalist-she is pro gay marriage and abortion as well as for feminism. Things that upset her right wing Christian fans a great deal"

Myself : The issues of gay marriage or abortion in the Western world are quite important and relevant and so the death of innocent Muslim children through drones or Western sanctions.

If you support the life of homosexual people and at the same time oppose the right to life by innocent Pakistani children then you are considered as a hypocrit period.

"Also it was not Sharon who was the the butcher of Shatila but Lebanese Christian militias"

It was Sharon who armed those miiitias it is documented by every sane Israeli writer of the day. Why do you think he allowed these militias to roam freely in those camps when those camps were under his military authority ? He had to resign from his position as defense minister precisely for this.

"DB:Or may be you have never read about any modern Islamic scholars. Have you read Syed Qutb , Mohammad Iqbal , Jamal Al-Afghani , Syed Nursi or even say Imam Khomenini ? Probably not."

"S: I have read enough of those theocratic gangsters to know that they must be opposed tooth and nail."

Myself: Theocratic gangster who ?? Have you ever bothered to read Mohammad Iqbal whose songs are national songs of both India and Pakistan ? Why do you oppose Mohammad Iqbal someone who exchanged letters with Friedrick Niestchze ? Have you ever heard about Jamal Al=Afghani and his views ? Do you know even who Said Nursi was ? Have you ever gone through Sayed Qutb or Imam Khomeini's political theories ?

"And you are really a fool to compare Manning,Assange and Snowden to Islamic dissenters. As you are confusing political /national with religious dissent. National dissent or treachery is a very serious crime in any nation, be it Christian,Muslim,Buddhist,Hindu,athiest or what have you. "

Myself : To many Americans , their nation is a god-given country. Their nationalism is akin to a religious fervor if you consider the hero worshipping of ruthless tyrants like Jefferson and Washington as so-called founding fathers. Those ones who opposed Manning and now are calling to assasinate Assange or Snowden do so since they consider Snowden to be a heretic to their religion of American exceptionalism. Period.

Please read these people carefully and come back to me.

"You must compare the treatment of Islamic dissenters not to Manning et al but to those like Dawkins and Hitchens etc who write books against God ,Judaism,Christianity etc and become millionaires and are celebrtities among the bien pensants of the West"

Myself : Dawkins and Hitchens were tolerated simply because they belonged to the ethnic majority. Look at the harsh treatment meted out to Reza Islam when he has been threatened because firstly he wrote a book on Jesus with an unique viewpoint and secondly because he is a Muslim who was courageous enough to write something on Jesus.

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