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Muslim and Western Slavery

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in response to reader comment: The nerve of the Prosecutors!

Submitted by herzpj@hotmail.com (United States), Jul 13, 2013 at 16:34

Maybe I don't have the right to butt into this conversation, since my folks came to the States a little too late to have been stakeholders in the slavery system, but...

Who says white Westerners weren't bothered by slavery? There were Western people of conscience (often theological) who wrote and agitated against slavery almost from its beginnings. Indeed, Bartolome de las Casas, who first proposed African slavery when he saw the Indians dying off (as a Spaniard, he knew about enslaving Africans from the Moors' 700-year tenure in his native country), lived long enough to have deep regrets about his proposal, and ended up pestering the Spanish crown with attacks on the trans-Atlantic African slave trade he had helped to initiate.

Among Anglophones, the Puritan judge Samuel Sewall, who is better known as one of the judges of the Salem witches, wrote against the slave trade as an un-Christian evil, too. Nor was he alone among his co-religionists in both the colonies and Europe. Let's not forget the Quakers' early decision to bar slaveholders from membership. There's also Wilberforce's life-long parliamentary crusade to end slavery in the British Empire--a movement which had numerous North American admirers and imitators.

And, speaking as someone with family ties to the non-European world, I am chiefly impressed how Western Christians caught themselves in evil acts, and sought to change and reform. When, after Wilberforce's crusade against slavery succeeded, a British envoy tried to get Morocco's Mulay Ismail to help stamp out the slave trade, Mulay Ismail replied that he refused to go against the revealed will of Allah. In short, for Christians (and, apparently, Jews), the trans-Atlantic slave trade was a cause for a very serious theological as well as political conflict; but for Muslims, it appears that the slavery question is settled--in favor of slavery.

As for reparations, Lincoln said it best when he noted how every drop of blood drawn by the lash was answered by more drawn by the saber in 1861-1865. Roughly 600,000 white American men, North and South, were killed in that conflict. It left the slave-holding South crippled for generations, and the more than "300,000 Yankees dead in Southern dust" left room for a lot of the rest of us to fill the gap through immigration. Indeed, if you added up American casualties of all wars, it takes them all through the Viet Nam conflict to outnumber those of the Civil War.

In any case, if there should be reparations for the South's "peculiar institution", who should pay it out to the descendants of the slaves? The owners and traders are all long dead; their descendants have started to emerge from economic ruin only within my own lifetime; a large number of non-African Americans descend from people who came to the country after slavery ended; and a very good many white Americans with family ties to the period when slavery existed don't have to search very far in their family trees to find someone killed or maimed trying to end slavery between 1861-65. And, are we gong to collect the reparations from the descendants of Louisiana Gens de Couleur or some old South Carolina heirs of Free People of Color who were also slave owners, too?

I refuse to excuse slavery in the New World. It was an evil institution and it is good that it died. But I strongly suspect that one of Dr. Pipes' concerns in posting this information about modern Islamic slave trafficking is to be sure that widespread slavery doesn't get re-institutionalized with another group of people.

While I'm at it, as a scion of East African Muslims (unless Frank Davis was his real father), President Obama had slave hunters, traders, and castraters (a lot of eunuchs for Middle Eastern harems were caught among the Zanji) closer in his family tree than any white American now living. It wasn't until "perfidious Albion" colonized the land that would become Kenya that slavery was suppressed there.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1The ethic of power leads to victimizing the vulnerable [188 words]DaveDec 31, 2021 17:34277916
2Disgusted that some here *defend* slavery [101 words]gravenimageApr 12, 2016 14:31228919
re:Turkish Connection to Russian Slaves [112 words]Mark RccaJul 15, 2013 05:52208276
From Whence the Brutality? [148 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AlexJul 13, 2013 18:17208254
Re: From Whence the Brutality? [109 words]AnonMay 22, 2022 22:51208254
Turkish Connection to Russian Slaves? [122 words]Albany Pizza ConsumerJun 25, 2010 15:56174835
Seems Suspicious [26 words]Kepha HorJul 13, 2013 16:07174835
2ONCE UPON A TIME IT WASN'T [468 words]mariaha_13Apr 9, 2009 12:34153642
The nerve of the Prosecutors! [385 words]ThatzlifeDec 29, 2008 17:08146185
2thatzlife [131 words]btillyDec 29, 2008 20:05146185
1same mindset....somethings never change. [430 words]ThatzlifeDec 30, 2008 17:13146185
1Slavery and the thoughts that perpetuate it. [400 words]PsywolfJan 1, 2009 15:00146185
Muslim and Western Slavery [660 words]herzpj@hotmail.comJul 13, 2013 16:34146185
lovely [80 words]scooderDec 28, 2008 20:22146096
1Muslims are not evil. [265 words]LeeDec 28, 2008 18:56146092
Very Good Point! [175 words]ThatzlifeDec 30, 2008 17:23146092
1Lee, Thatzlife and everybody else. [200 words]EddyMar 13, 2009 13:15146092
And it was attacked on Biblical grounds, too [87 words]Kepha HorJul 13, 2013 16:41146092
Slavery Never Condoned in Biblical Terms - Determined as Judgement for Fallen Societies [128 words]M ToveyJan 1, 2022 18:23146092
1india country of sex offenders? [187 words]mikeJun 12, 2008 11:09131882
As I said - they even rely on slaves! [198 words]gordon weareMar 21, 2008 21:51123198
العبودية .. لن تنتهي في المملكة السعودية [487 words]mohamed.mDec 27, 2005 11:2430627

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