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Submitted by Alex (United States), Jul 13, 2013 at 18:17

I may be stating the following out of an ignorance of the history of slavery, but Muslim slaveholders seem to treat their captives on average with more cruelty than do others. I understand that the Shari'a sanctions slavery, but simply possessing a legal mandate for a behavior and engaging in it with enthusiasm are two different phenomena. I vaguely remember reading in a Latin American history textbook in college that the Spanish/Papal regulations on slaveholding and trading actually made for less i humane practices than the British lack of acknowledgement of the issue altogether (or perhaps the other way around?). Has Dr. Pipes ever written--and would he agree in the first place to the existence of-- an added sadism present in Muslim slaveholding practices? I personally just can't understand how a wealthy Saudi royal could buy Cartier watches but actually withhold already low wages from an illegal laborer.

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Daniel Pipes replies:

I wrote my first book on a form of Muslim slavery and came to the conclusion that the US South's use of slaves was far more rapacious and inhumane. Comparatively, the laws surrounding the Muslim holding of slaves is quite good. Of course, slavery itself is an abomination, but that is another matter.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1The ethic of power leads to victimizing the vulnerable [188 words]DaveDec 31, 2021 17:34277916
2Disgusted that some here *defend* slavery [101 words]gravenimageApr 12, 2016 14:31228919
re:Turkish Connection to Russian Slaves [112 words]Mark RccaJul 15, 2013 05:52208276
From Whence the Brutality? [148 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AlexJul 13, 2013 18:17208254
Re: From Whence the Brutality? [109 words]AnonMay 22, 2022 22:51208254
Turkish Connection to Russian Slaves? [122 words]Albany Pizza ConsumerJun 25, 2010 15:56174835
Seems Suspicious [26 words]Kepha HorJul 13, 2013 16:07174835
2ONCE UPON A TIME IT WASN'T [468 words]mariaha_13Apr 9, 2009 12:34153642
The nerve of the Prosecutors! [385 words]ThatzlifeDec 29, 2008 17:08146185
2thatzlife [131 words]btillyDec 29, 2008 20:05146185
1same mindset....somethings never change. [430 words]ThatzlifeDec 30, 2008 17:13146185
1Slavery and the thoughts that perpetuate it. [400 words]PsywolfJan 1, 2009 15:00146185
Muslim and Western Slavery [660 words]herzpj@hotmail.comJul 13, 2013 16:34146185
lovely [80 words]scooderDec 28, 2008 20:22146096
1Muslims are not evil. [265 words]LeeDec 28, 2008 18:56146092
Very Good Point! [175 words]ThatzlifeDec 30, 2008 17:23146092
1Lee, Thatzlife and everybody else. [200 words]EddyMar 13, 2009 13:15146092
And it was attacked on Biblical grounds, too [87 words]Kepha HorJul 13, 2013 16:41146092
Slavery Never Condoned in Biblical Terms - Determined as Judgement for Fallen Societies [128 words]M ToveyJan 1, 2022 18:23146092
1india country of sex offenders? [187 words]mikeJun 12, 2008 11:09131882
As I said - they even rely on slaves! [198 words]gordon weareMar 21, 2008 21:51123198
العبودية .. لن تنتهي في المملكة السعودية [487 words]mohamed.mDec 27, 2005 11:2430627

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