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Propagandas do not stand for truth

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Submitted by Debanjan Banerjee (India), Nov 19, 2011 at 05:23

First of all ,

The stated legislation does not mean that any concept such as "Eurabia" because there are plenty of legal loopholes through which the immigration of the families of Muslims from Maghreb can be stopped in France. Here are these legal loopholes ;;;

1 ° The foreigner does not justify a year's residence in France in good standing;


2 ° The alien does not have steady resources sufficient to support his family;


3 Housing conditions that the alien intends to ensure his family are inadequate;


4 ° The presence of or family members on French territory constitutes a threat to public order;


5 ° The results of the medical examination which must undergo in their country of origin, or family members show that they are suffering from disease or infirmity that may endanger public health, order public or public security;
Now it is very easy for any officer who is looking after these issues , to expel anyone from France on the pretext of law 1 & 4 since the terms "not in good standing" in law 1 & "a theat to the public order" in law 4 are simply vague terms and can be used arbitrarily to prevent the incoming of any person in France.
Even after satisfying most of these conditions , the spouses and children do not get automatic citizenship in France , in fact what they get is just another residence permit. So , in my view your citation of this law does not justify the fictional "Eurabia". Period.

"Before 1976 Moslems were a marginal element in France, mainly represented by the loyal harkis who survived the massacres by the FLN."

My Answer --- > I would like to take this opportunity to ask you about your view on the French policy and colonization in Algeria. I would like to remind you that for a long time in Algerian assembly under French rule no one but Pied Noirs only had the electoral rights . The indigenous Muslims in Algeria for long had to renounce their traditional identities to become French citizens. There was no limits or regulations by the French authorities for allowing the French colonists to come and live in Algeria during the French rule. I would like to know your views about all these historical issues and in particular do you think it was right for the Algerian Muslims to seek independence from French rule or not ???

Also I would love to know from where you say that number of the Muslims in France is around 10% considering that France does not count her citizens based upon religion.

Also I would like to take this opportunity to remind you about the economic conditions that were responsible for the Muslim immigration into France. Let us see the facts . France lot plenty of young men to the course of the two wars and that is why she needed the Muslims in the first place.

See the colonialization and immigration are both undercurrents of the society which are the results of capitalism. If you reject the first two , then you happen to reject capitalism. I would like to know whether you accept immigration as an inevitable resultant of capitalism or not ?

Regarding football hooliganism , well in Europe the hooliganism of British and other football fans are legendary. Does that mean that those races (of non-Muslim stock) also do not or have not contributed to the enrichment of the European culture ?

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1Parallels between Israel/"Occupied Territories" vs Turkey/Northern Cyprus [73 words]Sigmund DermanJan 6, 2012 15:27192343
1You are so naive Sigmund Derman [59 words]PrashantJan 7, 2012 10:50192343
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4Better be careful! [104 words]YovenOct 14, 2011 20:18190041
14Israel, Cyprus and Greece [366 words]jgetsOct 13, 2011 14:46190011
1Another suggession [182 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 24, 2011 14:12190011
15End of the Turkish anomaly [314 words]IanusOct 26, 2011 10:12190011
1My answer to Ianus [665 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 26, 2011 22:51190011
7Wrong history [364 words]IanusOct 28, 2011 08:42190011
6"Chechen civilization" - slave markets, beheadings and kidnappings [436 words]IanusOct 28, 2011 09:52190011
2Banerjee I can;t believe this guy. [32 words]KayT (India)Dec 30, 2011 03:24190011
I do not forget anything [114 words]Debanjan BanerjeeDec 31, 2011 03:43190011
Banerjee's wierd logic [35 words]PrashantJan 1, 2012 15:46190011
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5biased interests [83 words]AthinagorasOct 13, 2011 00:56190002
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10USA's past romances [99 words]L. ManoharOct 12, 2011 04:11189985
1L Manohar's point to ponder. [63 words]PrashantOct 13, 2011 21:57189985
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4Turks in Cyprus and the real reason for the Greek coup [198 words]George PhilipOct 11, 2011 16:22189975
2Turkish identity is a mixture of Turkic migrants and indigenous converts. [68 words]Jon OzOct 12, 2011 21:56189975
1Another potential match [134 words]Joe Six-PackOct 13, 2011 12:53189975
15How and what the Turkish community in Cyprus "developed". [1065 words]IanusOct 15, 2011 19:54189975
3Turks also did good things [344 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 24, 2011 14:36189975
5Debanjan's only purpose is to irritate others [58 words]JoshOct 25, 2011 01:49189975
2Genetics of the people of Turkey [239 words]Steven A. AdelmanOct 25, 2011 14:14189975
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2If you want to refute me you can Josh [126 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 26, 2011 00:58189975
5My empire is better than yours - wrong [109 words]PeterOct 26, 2011 08:01189975
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8OMG [57 words]Peter HallNov 2, 2011 00:40189975
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1My answers on Cyprus [511 words]Debanjan BanerjeeNov 2, 2011 23:59189975
5Oriental solipsism [436 words]IanusNov 3, 2011 19:24189975
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8what a victim complex you have!! [226 words]Peter HallNov 4, 2011 00:08189975
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6Debanjans bizarre universe [147 words]ShishirNov 5, 2011 16:54189975
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3Debanjan Banerjee I have told you there is no need to further demonstrate ... [814 words]Peter HallNov 6, 2011 20:26189975
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Mr. Josh [94 words]Debanjan BanerjeeNov 8, 2011 20:21189975
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1I rest my case after I make these two points [168 words]JoshNov 9, 2011 23:09189975
1Debanjan's true belief [38 words]JoshNov 9, 2011 23:25189975
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2Idea for India [31 words]JoshOct 25, 2011 01:53189974
5And even better use for Turkey ! [140 words]IanusOct 26, 2011 09:41189974
1On the contrary [120 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 26, 2011 22:59189974
7Wrong resettlers [181 words]IanusOct 28, 2011 08:09189974
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