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Not a "version". Certainly is ideal , what less to do you expect from a "god" ? And, at great price.

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Submitted by kman (United States), Nov 24, 2009 at 20:38

And I asked what were the "slanders" that everyone is upset about? If we have a discussion over reality concerning "god",someone has to disagree with the other. There's no such thing as a god to suit everyone's own personal flavor. What "if", there truly is a god who claims to have made all "this" to begin with?

Most religions go all out to humanize god and present a dumb-downed and more "manageable" god that they can wrap their heads around - again, a humanzed god. Whose to say that because we can't wrap our head around him, he isn't exactly what he says he is?

As for "ideal", I think you are assuming a concept of a slush god who fits some fantasy. Don't mistake the Christian God. Their is much cost involved. I spoke a lot about truth. The whole universe screams truth and adherence to it. If one messes around with various aspects of the universe without absolute adherance to truth, one can get badly burned. Why would a god be any different? It makes much more sense to believe in a god which has the power to influence humans' lives, also, holds to the truths of that universe. In actuality, He claims to wield (not change) those truths.

I understand wanting to believe in a god that justifies one's position of privilege and advantage. It's also advantageous to get all the dis-advantaged to believe in that, too. "I'm sitting in advantage because I was such a worthy fellow in some past life, that none of us have any memory of or any idea of or why you are judged to be disadvantaged. Just accept it and live out your putrid life with no hope for yourself and and in acceptance of my grand privilege". Nice system.

You are betting the farm (eternity after death) that you are right. Nice for you in this life & not so much for hundreds of millions of others. Do enjoy this life with all you have, because you are betting it all that a few nice words and living with a little integrity in your little corner of comfort and privilege will suffice to get you the correct edge in the hereafter. Casual and convenient work towards being a general all around swell guy while occasionaly dabbling in some good work is all very nice for those who can afford in practical terms the occasional dalliance with it.

The Christian God calls for much more than that - all one's heart, soul, mind, body, and stregnth. We fail to perfectly implement it, but accomplish massive amounts of good in the world helping people of all nationalities, races, religions, and so on despite it. It isn't broadcast, because it doesn't make for general entertaining reading material. The world has scant interest, thus it has scant knowledge. Most others do a little to advance their own country's or race's agendas. Christians are all over the map wherever there is disaster or need. The needs are staggering and the Muslims do next to nothing besides giving a minimal bit of help to friends and neighbors. Hindus are content with their own geography and could care less about those of any other. Strange "god". Is there slander here? Tell me. Keep in mind before getting upset, that this isn't all about puffing up either myself or my fellow Christians. It is all about the God. We all acknowledge our failings and work tirelessly on them, imperfectly, yes. In the mean time, enormous amounts of people are helped all over the globe - not because we are so perfect, but because our God demands we head in that direction as hard as we can. Judgment comes to pretenders who will meet the same end as those who refuse to go the way that truth leads.

The major topic, though is this notion of "slander". If someone has claimed Hinduism is incorrect, how is that slander? If there is some error in what Christianity says, then I would like to hear it. And, on the slander agenda, I would put the Hindus astronomically higher on that list than Christians. We do not go on rampages burning villages, raping, and slaughtering Hindus, but we will speak to error when that condition exists.

Christians in dozens of Muslim nations are being slaughtered, tortured, raped, villages looted and burned, and all kinds of terrible things happen to their children. What kind of militant armies do you see them forming to go after their attackers? Very rare. Ninety percent at least will pray for their enemy and die loving them. Judgment day decides who will be rewarded and who not.

I also challenged you to see for yourself in the "Christian" God's own words, what he has to say for himself, not what some university or other religion has to say, but the God himself.

The "version" has never changed - ever. I would say that all other religions are all over the map. Especially with literally hundreds of gods in one of those "god" systems. It really keeps a person hopping. Now then, "delivery" by the human sector certainly does wander. God's book has made great and very pointed the absolute failure of his own people to stay with the program and then his dealings with those people. He has addressed that problem very handily.

If I'm wrong, then the exemplary life I live will at the least give me an edge with at least one of the Hindu gods. If you are wrong, you are toast for the rest of eternity. I'm not chest thumping. I don't wish God's wrath on anyone and neither does he. He has given humanity thousands of years to get it right with much intervention, prodding, and ultimate price paid by himself.

I know the evil that exists in the heart of every man including myself. God deals with that. I pay big prices for my mis-steps when they go far wrong in this life. Because I acknowledge God and his solution for EVERY man's evil including yours, I can at least be at peace about my ultimate destination. I am not called to rest on my laurels. I am retired, but work my tail off, much harder than before, to help mankind and learn how to live a better life within, and sometimes, well outside the scope of my natural abilities. I won't stand on any pedestals or seek glory and limelight for myself. I know the gutter God found me in.

The glory is all God's because I know my nature both before and after God got hold of me. It's not pretty, and neither is anyone else's.

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