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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Apr 5, 2009 at 21:20

Mansoor (peace be upon him) writes:

"Arabs lost their land which they curse most."

The area in question , Israel, was nearly deserted 200 years ago - and Arabs have plenty of land which they even now are doing nothing with. It only became important to them when the Jews returned in large numbers. There's also a racist component in there to as many Jews are of Eastern European heritage and not semitic and they just don't belong in the Middle east to many Arab minds. In the same way that many Brits would think that Pakistani Muslms don't belong in the UK or anywhere in Europe for that matter.

Getting back to the land issue, Israel gave back the whole of the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt after winning it through a series of decisive battles. The Sinai peninsula is much bigger in area than Israel.

What have the Arabs done with that land since 1967? Perhaps Mansoor can name those Arab countries which have had the intelligence to realise the futility and the nihilism inherent in the idea of demolishing Israel and instead tried to emulate it and turn their own countries into prosperous, innovative societies.

" We never saw since our childhood that Arab Israeli tensions eased up a bit. Blaming each others as responsible is quite easy but the tone which I experience on most of the Islamophobists websites, I really feel annoying to see that people are trying to underestimate the might of nations surrounding the tiny tot of Israel."

The impression I get from reading posts on Islamorealist websites is that Arabs and Muslims almost need to have Israel (or something like it) to exist as an outlet for their own unacknowledged confusion, jealousy and self-hatred. Who else (apart from a few ultra-right wing nazis) has such a big problem with a few million Jews - other than Muslms??

"I mentioned in my previous posts that Arabs cannot be called underdogs, they are like a caged lion."

The cage is self-imposed. Arabs/Muslims are of course numerically superior but have a cultural disadvantage

".........I believe every Jew is aware of the history and early days of Islamic conquest which hit major forces in the Arab region. Be it Khyber or Banu Kuraiza the history is quite shaky for Jews to remember. Arabs at that time fought wars without modern weaponry available at that time. "

Hmm, this is in direct contradiction with other Muslim posters - who insist that Islam was never spread by the sword. The idea is to get your stories straight and then try to hoodwink everyone. Conflicting stories will merely raise suspicions that the various proponets do not know what they are talking about. We would have to agree that every Jew is aware of the treachery and bloodthirstiness in Islam but due to the wonders of modern infidel technology which allows for the rapid and widespread dissemination of facts - that knowldege is not being limited to the Jews these days.

"It was their courage and above all the help of Allah which made them crush the enemies of monster size. "

Hardly courage. It's a combination of Muslim brainwashing and the force of a palpable hatred bred into Mujahadeen for an enemy they have never met. It always amazes me how powerful the mind can be given enough brainwashing. We've all seen how a stage hypnotist can get his subject to suspend him/herselfrigidly horizontal between two chairs - something that a person in a normal state of mind simply cannot do. A similar conditioning process is involveed whereby a willing person can be convinced that blowing himself up is a good thing - in order to kill a bunch of strangers.

"Who knows the sudden wave would change the table around, who knows Israel would need to quit from this region, who knows that Arab would again be able to teach lesson to Israel who is turning to be a big head ache for the Arabs??? who knows...??? who knows???"

Transposing the the words ' 'Muslims' for 'Israel" and 'Europeans' and/or 'Americans' for 'Arabs" in that paragraph will be more meaningful.

".I again repeat as I repeated in my previous posts that power is a perishable thing which would soon leave you in the middle. "

This is a rather surprising insight coming from Mansoor who has in the past written incessantly and with much pride about 'crushing the skulls of ' & 'wading in the blood' etc of Infidels. Does he see that it also applies to the Arab/Islamic thirst for the power to crush Israel?

"May be Israel's bull dog the lone super power would be losing the teeth very soon."

But more likely, maybe not. Western democracies support the right of other democracies to exist. They're all in it together , all those hundreds of millions of Christians, Buddhists, atheists etc who comprise the EU and US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and even Russia. When push comes to shove Russia's European culture , resurgent Christian religion and proximity to Europe count for a lot more than treaties it may currently have with oil-rich Arabs. And then there's the world's largest democracy - India which , despite (or maybe even because of it's large Muslim population ) will not take the side of supporting Arabs and Muslims against Israel simply because of the Arab/Muslim illogical, psychopathic and barbaric hatred of Jews.

"I know it is hard to digest, but Europe would be leading the world economic stage by adopting sharia compliant banking system which I see as silent conquest against Jewish financial model. "

It doesn't need to be digested - because people won't swallow it.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Interesting to note the divergence of fact from the fiction of the equitability of the 'sharia compliant banking system'. Note that the first Muslim country on the list comes in at #34 - the oil rich and relatively sparsely populated UAE , which over the last 20 or more years has been busily adopting Western business practices and systems. Note also that Muslim countries are over-represented in the bottom half of the list.

"This time the hit was punched right on the nose and we can see the head of many conspiring forces drowsing down. Hope to see more developments very soon!! In short, the underdogs which you declare would be turning into tigers or lions or hawks...who knows???"

They'll continue to be what they are - lowlife psychopaths who don't realise that what goes around, comes around.

http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4

Education doesn't help them much - this guy is a professor at Kuwait University. Same old cliches, same old hatred, new technology.


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