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Reader comment on item: Who Won in Israel's Elections?

Submitted by Ken Besig (Israel), Feb 12, 2009 at 06:15

Dr. Pipes, the election in Israel is far from over, there are still over a hundred thousand ballots to be counted, and that means up to five Knesset seats are still up for grabs. And those hundred thousand ballots won't even be looked at for another week. So legally and technically, neither the Likud nor Kadima has "won" anything yet.

By the way, those hundred thousand ballots are from soldiers, hospitalized individuals, and Foreign Ministry overseas workers, and the experts here believe that between three and five new Knesset seats will be added to the Likud list when these ballots are finally counted.

Regarding Avigdor Lieberman and his Yisrael Beitenu Party, you are correct, they made a big time hit with their anti Israeli Arab message with the demand that Israeli Arabs be required to take a loyalty oath to the State of Israel in order to keep their citizenship, their countenancing of civil marriage as opposed to Jewish religious marriage here in Israel and finally the Lieberman Party also scored big by championing making conversion to Judaism in Israel easier than the process is now. And the chances of him being able to implement any part of his program with either the Likud or the Kadima Parties are between slim and none, and slim's left town.

Mr. Lieberman voiced sentiments which are widely held in the Russian Israeli community which is largely irreligious but is extremely nationalist, and among Israelis who are extremely nationalist but who take his anti religious posturing as just that and nothing more.

Dr. Pipes, I invite you to take a look at the election results next week when they are really and finally in, and I think that you will find the Israeli political map far different from what it appears to be today.


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Daniel Pipes replies:

I am replying on February 19, exactly a week after this comment was sent, and nothing has changed, not a single seat has moved from one party to another.

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Lieberman [19 words]Jon PurizhanskyFeb 20, 2009 18:14
BRITAIN, UP TO ITS NECK IN ISLAMOGROVELLING MIRE. [158 words]gordon weareFeb 16, 2009 14:36
Don't Look for "Solutions" [121 words]BernieFeb 13, 2009 16:24
Who won? [197 words]MauriceFeb 13, 2009 11:50
New Hope for Israel! Lieberman has good solution. [203 words]Ms. AnneFeb 12, 2009 18:11
I'm in favor of any candidate who... [13 words]Edward RosenblattFeb 12, 2009 12:46
The Headline Shouldn't Begin "WHO WON...?" [8 words]orange yonasonFeb 12, 2009 10:29
⇒ It ain't over 'til it's over
[w/response] [300 words]
Ken BesigFeb 12, 2009 06:15
It's still not over til its over [91 words]David SternlightFeb 12, 2009 17:54
And Ms. Livni . . . [14 words]orange yonasonFeb 12, 2009 23:09
Lieberman's win in Israeli elections [135 words]Ghulam MuhammedFeb 12, 2009 01:56
putting up fences [161 words]Rebecca MouldsFeb 11, 2009 23:30
Incorrect claim of victory [157 words]David SternlightFeb 11, 2009 21:05
Beiteinu Party [55 words]Dan RusenFeb 11, 2009 19:37
Beiteinu Party- Totally agree--Have the guts to stand up for truth!---response to Dan Rusen [172 words]DeborahFeb 14, 2009 10:54
Loyalty of Arabs living in Israel [175 words]Janusz KowalikFeb 11, 2009 18:59
A pointless exhibition [41 words]Abu NudnikFeb 12, 2009 17:55
Israel's Grotesque System of Governance
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Prof. Paul EidelbergFeb 11, 2009 18:41
Not grotesque [26 words]LynnFeb 12, 2009 10:27
Unfair voting wouldn't help [44 words]Wayne SmithFeb 15, 2009 06:16
Israel Election Pie: Watch Out Canada [78 words]Edmund Onward JamesFeb 11, 2009 18:09
Lieberman is so very right! [66 words]vigilantFeb 11, 2009 18:07
Dr. Pipes, What is the solution to this issue you speak of?
[w/response] [82 words]
John DouglasFeb 11, 2009 17:38
miasmatic [271 words]John W. McGinleyFeb 11, 2009 17:31
The Religious Root(s) Of The Problem [109 words]orange yonasonFeb 12, 2009 14:05
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We Won! [160 words]Ariel Ben YochananFeb 11, 2009 17:19
The Israeli Moslems have the perfect situation -- life in a US-subsidized Western democracy AND impending reconquest [149 words]Charles MartelFeb 11, 2009 16:26
Let's agree to hate hate [285 words]ArchimedesFeb 11, 2009 16:09

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