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Cordesman is flawed
Reader comment on item: The Unthinkable Consequences of an Iran-Israel Nuclear Exchange

Submitted by Lame Cherry (United States), Jun 16, 2008 at 14:40

Tony Cordesman, except for being mildly correct on Tehran being a reflective killing zone (He does not take into account that Iran has more concrete and mud buildings which collapse in earthquakes, but might sustain nuclear winds better than Japanese rice paper and the well known American wooden structure tests, so immediate casualties might be lower but radioactive near term casualties would equal the numbers.), he is completely incorrect on Tehran's current nuclear stocks numbering in approximately one dozen SS MERV to low yield weapons purchased from the defunct Soviet Union.

Cordesman also neglects the Khan plans which Iran has and which Iran does indeed have a floating "nuclear metal stock" which came from either the Soviets, North Koreans or Chicoms where they were interested in moulding this metal into small stage nuclear warheads.

Cordesman neglects the fact that Patriot batteries do indeed knock down nuclear missiles, but that same warhead is still set to detonate at 100 meters approximately above surface which means he has not taken into account the Syrians, neo Syrians, Jordanians or perhaps Iraqis who will die when those nuclear missiles go off, kick up tons of sand into the atmosphere and in prevailing winds spread clouds of death to India. Those numbers in hot zone rain fallout could number into millions.

Cordesman also neglects the campaign last year in which Russia under Putin and Iran fed Assad of Syria false intelligence trying to sucker him into attacking the Israeli state with Saddam's chemical and biological weapons which would mean Damascus would have been vaporized.

Syria will be hit as will southern Lebanon in any WMD exchange coming out of the Israeli state as there is no way the IDF is going to allow a terrorist army and a Syrian military to swoop in as Jews pick through the rubble and require the necessary 2 weeks to "cool down" so evacuations can occur.
Those numbers can easily add 1 million dead terrorists and Syrians.

The reality is Iran has several bombs. That is why America has not struck. America though must strike before Iran sets up a nuclear front against the United States via FARC , Chavez and Cuba.

Most Israeli cities are concrete structure or mud of good composition. Their cities by tradition are upon tel's or har's, hills and mountains with broad flat valleys composing the remainder. Nuclear bombs do not operate well in those theaters as heat rises and on a mount the outlying areas would be untouched and in valleys, Iran would be sucking on it's own spent warheads as the winds would sweep up the mountains contaminated dust and carry it all back to Muslim states.

It is possible to contaminate the Israeli state as it is so small, but it is not possible to destroy it without a saturation of thermonuclear bombs in an almost section grid as the mountains and terrain form natural buffers.

As for Iran or Persia, the Jews would only be required to wipe out the Qud forces, the Supreme Council, Tehran while leaving the Kurds of the north and the ethnic minorities in the oil regions of the south to self rule. These peoples would welcome an end to Persian domination as they starve, are beaten and have their resources taken from them.

Most people including Cordesman for some Clintonesque reason decline to even comment on an almost decade ago detonation picked up in the northern mountains of Iran which read as a nuclear bomb going off. This was the same period when Iran was buying defunct Soviet weapons and Khan was starting his crusade to arm the entire Islamic world with bombs for his profit with the Swiss.

So in noting the above, quoting Cordesman is like quoting Ahmadinejad. They both take great stock in the degree after their name and position they hold, but in examining their assessments.....they would be fired or laughed at in the real nuclear theater of reality.

There is only one solution on Iran and that was to fragment it. That was leaked to the press and the operation did not succeed. All that is left now is either wait for one or more US cities to be vaporized (Ahmadinejad knows that having FARC do it will leave Iran free so that the Israelit state without America will collapse under civil war.) or to strike Iran and annihilate the Persian Islamocommunist cordon of the center completely, set up autonomous ethnic regions in the north and south and wait for the next world war to wind up.

From the leading dolt at the war college to Cordesman, the United States is receiving some of thee most inept advice and information from people who in their writings are completely clueless.

How on earth does now neglect armed nuclear missiles shot down by Patriots? As Zell Miller would quip, "What does Cordesman think they are going to do just vanish!"

God bless America and the Judeans, as our leadership is getting horrid advice.


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Unthinkable v Doable [43 words]KiwiAug 6, 2009 08:49
Any islamonazi country would gladly kill all of Israel , even if it meant its own death. [289 words]Phil GreendAug 5, 2009 22:15
ARAB 'COLLATERAL DAMAGE' INFLICTED BY IRANIAN NUCLEAR ATTACK ON ISRAEL [32 words]PAUL GUREVICHJun 10, 2009 01:52
What makes you think they'd care? [21 words]Abu NudnikAug 5, 2009 11:53
RE: Arab collateral damage (won't stop the Iranians) [92 words]AlanAug 6, 2009 02:06
Mr. Pipes You have a duty to investigate Cinema Rex tragedy in IRAN caused by terrorists [139 words]Rex DavisJan 7, 2009 12:01
Bring It On Iran! [14 words]marleneJul 29, 2008 10:26
Think [16 words]SadeqMay 23, 2009 13:12
A HIGHLY SPECULATIVE ANALYSIS [71 words]john h. rubelJul 21, 2008 19:40
Irresponsible and evil empires! [245 words]RenoirJul 11, 2008 13:12
destroy the myth... [76 words]donvanJul 1, 2008 13:53
Well said! [86 words]newshawkusJul 10, 2008 19:12
Great Coffee Talk for Those Who Don't Live Here [44 words]Joseph BermanJun 30, 2008 09:28
That's why...... [27 words]newshawkusJul 10, 2008 19:04
The End of the Islamofascist Regime of Iran [73 words]EdwardJun 19, 2008 19:30
Not so sure [202 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 22, 2008 21:16
⇒ Cordesman is flawed [830 words]Lame CherryJun 16, 2008 14:40
You know, that's right Lame Cherry---Patriot Missiles [21 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 18, 2008 16:29
I'll bet most of the Muslims, liberals and secular progressives [45 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 16, 2008 14:29
Err..No [118 words]MGJun 20, 2008 08:26
Umm....YES. [725 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 20, 2008 22:12
Why weapons material? [43 words]Kathmandu TigerAug 14, 2008 01:50
Ya gotta love the Iranians! [80 words]DrRJPJun 12, 2008 16:26
Will not be happening [53 words]EricJun 11, 2008 22:44
Irresponsible comments [57 words]DaveJun 10, 2008 10:02
Dave: Saturday Night Friend Israel and the Jewish People DO NOT NEED [122 words]james burkeJun 12, 2008 06:38
Dave, Irresponsible comments [71 words]InfidelJun 12, 2008 16:41
I see nothing wrong will telling the truth to Iran: "Stop the program or pay the piper" [210 words]DrRJPJun 12, 2008 19:15
The Unthinkable Consequences of an Iran-israel Nuclear Exchange [141 words]DebbieJul 6, 2008 20:48
A Death in the Family [213 words]Rabbi William C. DeasonMay 21, 2008 15:24
END of Islamic Civilization [50 words]Alex SabyApr 21, 2008 21:54
Alex Saby [9 words]Samson BellJun 10, 2008 04:10
Islam...Scourge of Mankind for 1400 Years [195 words]Domenic PepeJun 13, 2008 15:20
Re-Islamic civilization [21 words]Alex SabyJun 15, 2008 13:47
what is the definition of being CIVILIZED? [97 words]Amir Ali TayyabJun 18, 2008 14:24
Submitted by Domenic Pepe, Jun 13, 2008 15:20 [203 words]ASabyJun 22, 2008 22:16
No Civilization [210 words]Melchizedek, IndiaJul 18, 2008 18:12
Nobody's a fool... and you aren't the ONLY genius!!! [96 words]Amir Ali TayyabJul 23, 2008 16:30
Wow... you must have won Historical Noble Prize for such informed and wise words [195 words]Amir Ali TayyabJul 29, 2008 11:14
To Amir [133 words]MelchizedekJul 29, 2008 20:07
You are specific to your religion and not seeing people out of your religion [381 words]A.Melchizedek, IndiaJul 30, 2008 19:43
You deserved an equally ABUSIVE response, but I forgive you for your INNOCENCE as a child [183 words]Amir Ali TayyabJul 31, 2008 14:37
Muslims means PEACE, that is why you don't see 1.5 billion of them committing crimes against humanity [105 words]Amir Ali TayyabJul 31, 2008 14:41
Prophet Mohammed would love to have you around. [4 words]ASabyJul 31, 2008 21:11
watch your attitude and language [62 words]Amir Ali TayyabAug 1, 2008 12:36
and you'd definitely be on the OPPOSITE side of Mohammad (pbuh) [18 words]Amir Ali TayyabAug 1, 2008 17:55
A person who has Psycho anger would do Terrorism [217 words]A.Melchizedek, IndiaAug 1, 2008 19:01
The Unthinkable Consequences of an Iran-Israel Nuclear Exchange [224 words]btillyAug 2, 2008 13:56
Amir [177 words]btilly`Aug 2, 2008 14:07
don't twist words of QURAN to justify your anger [1 words]Amir Ali TayyabAug 4, 2008 12:52
Amir.... [97 words]AmbrosiaBlueJan 14, 2009 14:12
no, oil imports from the Gulf wouldnt be that big of a deal [119 words]markApr 20, 2008 00:54
Great Posting. [159 words]YnnatchkahApr 20, 2008 21:09
Maybe not the end of globalization [100 words]KafirDec 4, 2007 20:48
thoughts [849 words]markApr 20, 2008 00:47
Why make it uninhabitable? [135 words]KafirApr 20, 2008 08:35
some leaders maybe but not many [37 words]markApr 21, 2008 19:54
Muslim Survival [29 words]Ernst BlofeldDec 3, 2007 02:13
They asked for it [91 words]David W. LincolnNov 27, 2007 11:31
A small item Cordesman didn't mention but would mean the world to the US and Europe [78 words]RickNov 27, 2007 09:35
Not just Israel & Iran [70 words]MannyNov 27, 2007 09:24
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A Frightening Possibility [126 words]Richard B.Nov 27, 2007 21:53
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possible scenario [82 words]common senseNov 29, 2007 04:22
The convergence of logic and intuition. [77 words]Seamus MacNemiNov 26, 2007 21:47
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Iran probably IS saner than it seems, but is that sane enough? [90 words]Charles MartelNov 28, 2007 12:34
"meta-rationality"? [318 words]TGGPNov 29, 2007 02:30
Meta-unreality [177 words]Brian HDec 4, 2007 12:52
Let's drop the meta [257 words]TGGPDec 5, 2007 04:58
Undeterred [107 words]Brian HDec 7, 2007 18:16
Deterred [97 words]TGGPDec 8, 2007 20:00
Threat from Iran [85 words]Hessel MeilechNov 26, 2007 20:41
Wouldn't there be a next logic step in development? [222 words]JoeMay 7, 2008 01:56
Highly improbable hypothesis [26 words]Alain Jean-MairetNov 26, 2007 15:14
Deterrence can't be relied on in dealing with the insane [96 words]Charles MartelNov 26, 2007 15:02

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