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Submitted by Avraham (United States), Nov 19, 2003 at 21:00

Dr. Pipes, this is a very insightful article. However I would add that Iraqification is impossible since there are no Iraqis. What I mean is that Arabs and Muslims in general do not identify themselves at the level of the nation-state; their terms of self-identification are either at the subnational, tribal level, or at the supranational level of the Ummah. These collective communal identities are recipes for disaster, as has been shown by-among many others (including yourself)-Dr. Bernard Lewis. Allowing socalled "Iraqis" to govern Iraq's domestic future would be a big mistake, given the seemingly incessant Muslim desire for revenge and religio-nationalistic pride over socioeconomic self-sufficiency and coping with reality. As you have noted before, "Militant Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution," and we need a full-scale support system for moderate Muslims-starting at the municipal level-to successfully reconstruct Iraq. I agree with you that Americans are less up to this job than Iraqis are to Usama bin Laden's job, but there is never a good reason to abandon what is right because the ...westerners are-as always-so shortsighted.

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Strongly support your suggestion !!! [89 words]Nicola RussoApr 9, 2004 11:34
iraq's future [43 words]fereydounMar 7, 2004 14:47
Is the Islamic Republic of Iraq worth Billions of UF Dollars? [133 words]TomFeb 23, 2004 10:47
Germans were defeated & accepted remake [98 words]Gary WimberlyFeb 3, 2004 09:32
The case against Iraqification [217 words]Michael ElvinDec 15, 2003 10:16
Turkish Model [24 words]Robert ArbetmanDec 2, 2003 17:15
I don't understand [176 words]MonicaDec 1, 2003 07:03
Iraqification? [45 words]SkyhookNov 27, 2003 12:04
comments on Iraqification [200 words]C.d'A-ScheinbergNov 25, 2003 11:38
Comparing Germany/Japan to Iraq [123 words]Nov 24, 2003 22:31
Some Good Insghts on Iraq [52 words]R burmeisterNov 20, 2003 18:34
I may be wrong [296 words]Ed SparksNov 20, 2003 18:19
Made your case! [35 words]Ivan BarnaNov 20, 2003 13:38
Problems with Iraqification [117 words]Peter J. HerzNov 20, 2003 05:46
Reality and common sense. [55 words]Tirza Preis TanzmanNov 20, 2003 01:21
Further comments on the future of Iraq [92 words]E. J. BlumbergNov 19, 2003 22:53
⇒ Very Interesting [180 words]AvrahamNov 19, 2003 21:00
Keep in Bush's ear [113 words]E.P.AbelNov 19, 2003 19:52
Recipe for disaster [213 words]Mehran AlimNov 19, 2003 16:49
The Brilliance of Simplicity [22 words]Patrice HendersonNov 19, 2003 12:24
Saddam's Mountain Chemical Bombshelters [115 words]a former "intelligent" officer who was in M.E.Nov 19, 2003 12:06
Iraq; start with municipal elections [45 words]henk TwerdaNov 19, 2003 12:04
Brilliant Analysis [98 words]Joe BentzelNov 19, 2003 11:40
Iraqification [272 words]Leo CharendoffNov 19, 2003 11:25
Bravo, the same for Israel [88 words]yuval BrandstetterNov 19, 2003 11:03
Something is missing from your Iraqification article [44 words]Susan IrelandNov 19, 2003 10:18
Maybe not! [53 words]Matt BaumNov 19, 2003 09:45
Iraq [70 words]max greenNov 19, 2003 09:14
What about a confederation for Iraq [115 words]Richard AlpertNov 19, 2003 09:14
Iraq's tribal society is the missing element [279 words]John R.Feb 18, 2007 16:56
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Cantons and The Iraqi Tribal System [60 words]Sam StolzoffMay 22, 2009 10:45
Iraqi Policy [303 words]HughNov 19, 2003 08:32
Yes, but -- [85 words]Murray KupersmithNov 19, 2003 08:22
One more difference between Iraq and Germany/Japan [223 words]Linas KondratasNov 19, 2003 07:58
Decision making [50 words]Steve WellsNov 19, 2003 06:32
hunt Sadaam without boots [37 words]David WaxmanNov 19, 2003 06:10

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