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Michael: Nothing is simple! Echad, Khad, Wahid means one as in number one! Samad(a) means Bundle

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 9, 2018 at 16:09

Hi Michael,

You are very correct that the word Echad means one and it is translated in Syriac as Khad and in Arabic it is Wahid

In both Arabic and Syriac it is a number as in number one not bundle or two or three or any other number.

However, the word Samad as we have it in the Qur'an it means Bundle (Trinity?) It is a Syriac word for bundle (Trinity?) I believe that Qur'an 112:1-2 really attests to Allah the One Allah, the Bundle (Trinity)

I suggest that you read the very sophisticated Tafsir of al-Tabari of Q112:1-2. Very interesting. Unluckily Muslim translations are very tendentious and are full of lies. And google.translate is not the best. If I find a good translation I will let you know

al-Tabari seems to be very aware of Aristotelian logic, Gnosis and Neo-Platonoism and they are the building blocks for understanding what we now know as non-Jewish monotheism. And don't forget that the Trinity is a very sophisticated doctrine and very difficult to refute (Tertullian).

And remember that the ethnic God of the Jews is Echad or One. The Jews were very familiar with Greek logic and this is why, as far as I know, the Jews do not claim that their God is anyone else's God! By contrast Muhammad fails because he claimed that his God is the only God for all of humanity and this is why the Jews asked him the Aristotelian question: If Allah created this creation then who created Allah! Muhammad had no answer Did you get it this time?

Again, the Qur'an attests that Jesus is a man (prophet), the Logos (Kalimatu Allah) and Allah's Spirit or Roh Allah (al-Roh al-Qudus?) and this is really what the Trinity is all about: A Samad or a Bundle may be?

BTW: I use the language of the primary source so no one can say that I'm making things up

Again, nothing is simple

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