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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Nov 3, 2011 at 19:24

Debanjan Banerjee wrote :

> I guess you are omitting the simple fact here.<

My impression is that you tend to refer to simple things because you don't know complicated things.But this has often a devastating effect on simple things which you refer to. Ignorance is alas always a bad companion.

> Romans never forced anybody to become a Roman citizen simply because no Roman citizens could be made a slave and put into gladiatorship.<

First, there was a difference between being a free citizen and a Roman citizen.You could be a free citizen without being a Roman citizen as was usually the case in the Roman province. As a free citizen you couldn't be made a slave. And as to gladiators it involved much more than just being a captive or a slave. The institution developed from the ancient Etruscan funeral duels and you needed to go through a long course of special training before you were allowed to fight on the arena. Do you believe that Roman spectators were interested in trembling exhausted human wrecks fighting each other ?

> You understand about the class differences in Petricians and Plebians in the Roman society. <

And you imply you understand them, don't you ? If you refer to the Republican Period which don't seem to do, then let me ask you what was Lex Lucia Sextia and what were the attributes of Tribunus Plebis ?

> Then you should understand that as an empire Rome survived and thrived based upon her ability to conquer more and more territories and incorporate as many slaves as possible into her economic system. <

That's blatant nonsense. The last conquests were those under Emperor Trajan in Dacia (for which today's Romanians are infinitely grateful to him and very proud of him ) and Mesopotamia. The latter were soon lost, the former abandoned after circa 150 years under Aurelianus. Yet the Empire continued to live on losing or voluntarily abandoning territory after territory.Think of how Roman Britain stopped being part of the Empire which perished only in 1453 , i.e. c. 1000 years after it lost all its Western provinces.

> As a result , Rome could not afford to offer citizenship to any other conquered peoples. Period.<

That's another nonsense which just exposes your encyclopaedic ignorance of the subject matter. In 212 emperor Caracalla made every free citizen of the empire a Roman citizen. Google "Constitutio Antoniniana" to learn more if you are still able to learn anything more.

That the most basic facts are nonexistent in your mind , unfortunately, doesn't make them automatically non-existent in history.


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