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Anticipating Iraq's Final Assimilation

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Mar 9, 2010 at 12:30

Detecting the note of melancholy in Dr. Pipes tenor as he prognosticates the potential of Iraqi politics getting out of hand once the American influences of money and military are phased out, there should be concert from all in echoing those sentiments for any who have followed the 'progress'.

There is a dichotomy at play here, as may be alluded to by Dr. Pipe's comments. It took American intervention to restructure the Iraqi political landscape, and well as the actual landscape, what with the Corps of Engineer's (and others) being involved in rebuilding. Some might call it an investment in democracy; others have made derogatory comments of the waste of money with the idea that once the American presence has dissipated. Dr. Pipe's dread of the Iranian underground coming out to play is not only potentially true, but more than likely true. There are those who appreciate the American assistance towards a democratic society, and then those who are waiting.

The subliminal situation of the dichotomy is that all Iran has to do is wait too, and let the shia way ferment in the underlying sentiments of the majority population, enjoying American money as long as it holds out; then when it has played itself out, the underlying alliances waiting in the shadows are to be revealed and the associations cemented and asserted.

Now, it may be that Iran's patience for Iraq to sort itself out will be lost in Iran's relentless motivation for power beyond their actual ability to use force. Iraq may get swept up in that as the situation gets further out of American and other worldly controls. If Iran finally consolidates a nuclear capability, they may not wait for the American influence to wane, but demand its cessation in immediate terms.

Then there will be all that effort wasted in Iraq, and it may well be the circumstance the world might have wished never had happened. In any event, time has just about run out and it is surmised here that Dr. Pipe's reservations about Iraq have not long to be realized.

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Only stable Islamic governments are monarchies [220 words]PPSApr 1, 2010 02:53170838
Good reason to be despondent... Iraqi cities will burn and we will abandon her, says prophet Jeremiah [104 words]Jeff AhrendtMar 31, 2010 12:51170824
The problem with cosmetic democracies [59 words]markiecorkMar 30, 2010 07:19170769
Only assuming Iranian clerics stay in power [77 words]SandyMar 16, 2010 14:01170233
Iraqi children can ink their fingers when their parents vote [245 words]John in Michigan, USAMar 13, 2010 20:29170089
I agree ! [170 words]Nelson HortonMar 11, 2010 16:46169988
A rather demeaning world attitude? [71 words]Furor TeutonicusMar 10, 2010 02:49169920
For once I disagree with Prof. Pipes [146 words]G BormanMar 9, 2010 21:55169914
yes that is what probably will happen, but , it would be nice to think that maybe, the good people of Iraq will use this gift of freedom to continue to keep said freedom. ...Mar 2010 [65 words]Phil GreendMar 9, 2010 21:18169913
Realism Personnified [54 words]ZentristMar 9, 2010 20:15169910
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re: The Issue is Islam, Nothing but Islam [98 words]MattMar 13, 2010 10:45169909
Come see for yourself. [15 words]Francis BrookeMar 9, 2010 18:38169906
Yes. The job must be finished. [99 words]Abu NudnikMar 9, 2010 15:28169898
Dr. Pipes, I have to disagree with you here. [264 words]Aymenn JawadMar 9, 2010 15:15169895
So what was the point of the invasion, then? [250 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
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