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Charlemagne and 911
Reader comment on item: Harvard Loves Jihad

Submitted by Robert Mikan (United States), Jun 17, 2002 at 00:19

I fear that american academia is headed down a primrose path that may lead to america's death and destruction. The message of 911 was not only for the benefit of traditional judeo-christian americans - it was also a warning to moderate and aspiring muslims that they must toe the line of fundamentalist ideology or they too will suffer the fate of the burning towers. The Islamic beliefs of religous states such as Afganistan , Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait face a life and death struggle as their youth is exposed to easy living western culture by music, film ,the internet and television - media that their governments cannot completely control. These religous states realize that they must strike the west hard in order to survive. Americans who continue to practice "goodspeak" and give muslims the benefit of the doubt are foolish and playing with their children's lives. Islam has always played well among the downtrodden and illiterate - after all Mohammed was illiterate. His concept of sexuality and pedophilia was also a good bit more liberal than the catholic church's.

Last summer I read Harold Lamb's biography of Charles the Great , finishing just before 9/11. I was shocked to see the similarities with Charlemagne's struggle with then rising Islam. After the prophet's death Islam spread like wildfire - the sons of Fatima rode fast horses and carried sharp swords to cut down the infidel. Charlemagne realized that he could only fight them with their own tactics. If you cannot kill your enemy, then find what he loves and kill it. This they did to Charles' empire and this he did to them. Islam flourished in Spain and after the death of Roland (as in song-of) at the hand of the Basque it was left to prosper.

Today we face a similar situation - Islam uses the things we love against us : our belief in freedom and tolerance, our religions, our free enterprise system. Islam is expansive and intolerant of any non-believers (whose status is only as a potential slave for the islamic rulers). They use our aircraft as missles and undermine our institutions in any way possible . We failed to stop the Trade Center Attacks because we failed to heed the warning of the botched 1993 bombing. We have to consider the ludicrous, the implausible, the outlandish and the immoral in order to anticipate what the islamic fundamentalist is capable of. How much of the Catholic Church's crisis can be attributed to manipulation by Islamic operatives? Was ENRON the product of an islamic accounting group's scheme to destroy the market? How many of Harvard's Islamic scholars are really advance troops for the new caliph? How many of our elected officials have already turned to Islam ? I have my doubts about the new Senator from New York , and the ex-president for that matter. Action and inaction speak louder than words.

Americans have always been willing to fight to preserve their way of life and life-style from perceived threats. Hitler and Hirohito were probably less of a threat to the ordinary american of 1940 than the islamic movement is to us today.

RIDICULOUS you say? So is flying an airplane into a steel tower !

So is allowing Islamic operatives to come to America where we subsidize their studies and invite them to destroy the fabric of their society !


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jihad [528 words]zehnab hussainNov 21, 2007 06:55
harvard LOVES JIHAD [137 words]Danica BelicDec 6, 2005 01:00
Educational institutions [237 words]Mark ErsckoffDec 20, 2002 18:44
I would urge you to rethink your comments [165 words]Meyrem HusseinNov 7, 2002 07:08
I rethought your naive comments [237 words]DredFeb 22, 2006 18:46
I would Urge you to re-think your comments--Harvard Loves Jihad-Meyrem Hussein [251 words]AnneJul 21, 2008 22:59
Harvard is a disgrace! [14 words]DamienOct 2, 2002 13:31
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Thoughts on "Jihad" and the current crisis. [672 words]AnonymousJun 22, 2002 18:44
Flunking the Pipes Analogies Test [477 words]Gil ReyesJun 21, 2002 16:07
Did anyone read the speech [185 words]Ali ChaudreyJun 20, 2002 10:09
I guess a lot of things do repeat themselves. [169 words]CharlesJun 19, 2002 04:51
Response to Alex ("You sound as bad as those you point the finger at") [269 words]Robert ArsenaultJun 18, 2002 20:14
Response to "The Only True Religion" [169 words]Robert ArsenaultJun 17, 2002 10:02
⇒ Charlemagne and 911 [560 words]Robert MikanJun 17, 2002 00:19
Cruising for a Boycott [42 words]Ben ShniperJun 16, 2002 17:57
Hyperbole (albeit alliterative)... [110 words]Matt HarrisJun 15, 2002 23:02
You are a breath of fresh air! [56 words]Robert G. MogullJun 15, 2002 20:03
"Academic Freedom" [59 words]Bob KaplanJun 15, 2002 15:06
The Meaning of Jihad , Let no Islamic propagandists mislead you [271 words]Jacob, the CoptJun 15, 2002 09:37
I agree [18 words]rafael zeligzonJun 13, 2002 18:03
And that's Not All.... [84 words]Bruce CramerJun 13, 2002 16:01
Not so fast [414 words]Stephen WaltonJun 13, 2002 12:48
They have. What will we do about it? [148 words]Joe KatzmanJun 13, 2002 07:18
No Sense of Responsibility [64 words]John JohnsonJun 12, 2002 22:56
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Book Smart? [27 words]Mark FeldsteinJun 12, 2002 18:09
Your sound as bad as those you point the finger at [165 words]AlexJun 12, 2002 18:05
The "L" Word [191 words]Raymond LowJun 12, 2002 17:55
Definition of Jihad [38 words]Peaceful MuslimJun 12, 2002 16:59
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At Least Someone...or two or three.... [137 words]Charles GoebelJun 11, 2002 22:09
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Once Again, You are Correct [130 words]Terrall PutnamJun 11, 2002 15:27
What it will take for Harvard to change [80 words]John MaloneyJun 11, 2002 12:37
Educating the Educators [147 words]Charlie TaubJun 11, 2002 12:07
American Jihad [23 words]Norman RosenblattJun 11, 2002 12:02
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The Only True Religion [72 words]anonymous-flipJun 11, 2002 11:00
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