Submitted by Dr.Steve Carol MEF Member (United States), Dec 19, 2006 at 12:24
Dear Dr. Pipes:
Thank you for publishing your newest article "Israel's Domestic Enemy." It echoes two earlier articles that I wrote last year and this. I reproduce them below for your interest and perhaps you will post them on your site, as "commentary" to your article. THANK YOU.
Dr. Steve Carol, MEF Member
Scottsdale, Arizona
480 585-7841
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THE RIGHT QUESTION:
ARE THE TROOPS FINALLY COMING OUT OF THE TROJAN HORSE?
by Dr. Steve Carol ©
Oct. 24, 2005
The small group of American Jewish leaders who want to further assist Israeli Arabs (your story: "U.S. group wants to improve Israeli Arabs' status" Oct. 21, 2005) have blinded themselves to the reality of the situation today in Israel.
Whereas the Israeli Arabs have by and large, the highest standard of living among all Arabs in the Middle East, the highest education rates, the best medical attention, the longest life span and growing opportunities, the central fact is that today's Israeli Arabs consider themselves Palestinian Arabs first, and citizens of Israel last. This has been a growing fact since the Six Day War of 1967 and since the recognition of the PLO by the world in 1974. It was accelerated by the so called Oslo "peace process" of 1993. All of this was again confirmed to me by an Israeli visiting the Arab towns in the Galilee within the past two weeks.
A more open change in loyalty began to emerge in 2000 when Israeli Arabs rioted in favor of the start of the second, Al Aqsa, intifada. Many are active in working with the Palestinian Authority, and various terrorist organizations. Case in point: today (Oct. 24) two Israeli Arab dentists were arrested for spying for Hamas since the early 1990s. These are not impoverished persons seeking assistance. These are middle class Arabs who grew up in Israel and benefited from Israeli law to be able to travel abroad for their "studies" – their studies included espionage, and terrorist training. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Many Israeli Arabs are in agreement with the "Palestinian"/Arab long standing demand, that once Israel retreats to the 1949 armistice lines, that Israel must allow the "democratic" process to work, which means allow the Israeli Arabs to secede, population and land area, from Israel and join the new "Palestinian" state, returning Israel to the 1947 UN partition lines, an untenable position.
In the Negev Hamas has already made inroads among the Bedouin. The Bedouin make up one-third of the population of the largely rural Negev. Many businessmen in Arad and Be'er Sheva have reported that they pay "protection money" to local Bedouin gangs to prevent their shops from arson or theft.. Israeli policemen are afraid to enforce the law, and privately have confided they stay away from Bedouin villages. A Bedouin intifada already is a fact, according to regional leaders and businessmen, who say law and order are totally foreign to the local Arab population. If most of the Negev goes, what remains of Israel --- a ghetto for Jews?
The Arab population of Israel has never shared the ideology and national ambitions of the Jewish State. Trying to "buy" the loyalty of these Arabs with yet more incentives of funding and education, after 58 years of such improvement programs is delusional. As the Israeli left makes claims that Israel is trying to make the Jewish state "Arab-rein" they have overlooked the fact that they have already been accomplices of the continual 100+ year Arab efforts to make the entire Middle East "judenrein."
The proof is in; the troops are out of the Trojan horse and within the city. Israel must wake up before it is too late.
Dr. Steve Carol
Prof. of History (retired)
Official Historian "Middle East Radio Forum" www.middleeastradioforum.org
Senior Fellow Center for Advanced Middle East Studies http://www.camesinfo.com
Scottsdale, Arizona
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THE RIGHT QUESTION:
JUST ON WHOSE SIDE ARE THE "ISRAELI" ARABS ANYWAY?
By Dr. Steve Carol ©
Feb. 20, 2006
(Featured on the www at Think-Israel.org Feb. 21, 2006)
On Feb. 15, 2006 two "Israeli" Arab political parties announced a merger. The United Arab List and the Ta'al Party formed a joint list for the forthcoming Israeli elections. New party chairman Ibrahim Sarsour stated that "We believe in Islam and in the Caliphate and not in separation between state and religion." He denounced the "Israelization" of the "Israeli" Arabs calling for Arab and Islamic rule over the Arab areas of Israel. Specifically Sarsour said the party would work to increase Arab immigration to the Jewish state and increase relations between Arabs with Israeli citizenship and the Palestinian Authority. His comments included praise for Hamas, and its recent election victory in the Gaza Strip as well as a denunciation of the United States and its government. Hamas now runs the Palestinian Authority. Sarsour called upon the Palestinian government of Hamas to lead the Arabs of both Israel and Palestine to "progress and achievements, not catastrophes," an allusion to the Nakbah – the catastrophe, as the Arabs of the region call it, that befell them when Israel was re-established in 1948.
The world knows what Hamas seeks to achieve, just by referring to the Hamas Covenant. Hamas wants the elimination of the State of Israel, and the removal of all Jews from the region by one means or another, no matter what borders may be established in the future. While many in the world urge Hamas to voice a change in its charter, any such announcement would be as worthless as those uttered by Yasir Arafat and the PLO in the past. Arafat on several occasion claimed that the PLO charter had been revised or abrogated, and factually never did it. Indeed Hamas leaders are meeting in Beirut, Lebanon, to tone down the rhetoric of their charter in order to keep Western funds streaming into the Palestinian Authority without actual changes to their desired end goal of the destruction of Israel. This demonstrates that "Israeli" Muslim Arabs consider themselves Arabs first, "Palestinians" second, and "Israeli" citizens last. They seek continually to use the freedom and democracy in Israel to undermine that very state. This has been a growing trend since the Six Day War of 1967 and since the recognition of the PLO by the world in 1974. Additionally the so-called Oslo "peace process" of 1993 accelerated it. A more open change in loyalty began to emerge in 2000 when Israeli Arabs rioted in favor of the start of "Al Aqsa (the second) intifada."
Many "Israeli" Arabs are active in working with the Palestinian Authority in addition to various terrorist organizations. For example, two Israeli Arab dentists were arrested for spying for Hamas since the early 1990s, last October. These were middle class Arabs who grew up in Israel and benefited from the Israeli law to be able to travel abroad for their "studies," which included espionage, and terrorist training. In the Negev Hamas has already made inroads among the Bedouin, where they make up one-third of the population of that largely rural desert region.
Many Israeli Arabs are in agreement with the Arab long standing demand, that once Israel retreats to the 1949 armistice lines – towards which they are now headed due to the policy of unilateral retreat and surrender – Israel must allow the "democratic" process to take place. A referendum would be demanded that would allow the Israeli Arabs to secede, population and land area, from Israel and join the new "Palestinian" state. This in turn means returning Israel to the 1947 UN partition lines, which is an indefensible position.
The Arab population of Israel has never shared the ideology and national ambitions of the Jewish State. They do not wish to integrate with, nor assimilate into the Israeli population. This is the same problem now confronting many nations in Europe vis-à-vis their own Muslim populations. Further unilateral Israeli concessions will greatly embolden the Arabs, both within Israel and outside of it, and their demands will continue to escalate. The democratic process will be subverted and used to destroy the Jewish State.
Those Arabs who do not want to be part of Israel, or "Israelized" as they put it, should move to Arab controlled areas of the Middle East. There will be, no doubt, cries from the Israeli left and their world-wide supporters that Israel is trying to make the Jewish state "Arab-rein." These same leftists have overlooked the fact that they already have been accomplices of the continual 125-year Arab war to make the entire Middle East "judenrein." In light of the positions taken by "Israeli" Arabs of late, it is time for Israel to wake up and face the harsh realities of the situation.
Dr. Steve Carol
Prof. of History (retired)
Senior Fellow Center for Advanced Middle East Studies www.camesinfo.com
Official Historian "Middle East Radio Forum" www.middleeastradioforum.org
Scottsdale, Arizona
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| Israeli Arab Muslims Must be Stripped of all Rights to CItizenship ( It is an Easy thing to do ) [276 words] | Jeff Burke | Feb 9, 2007 08:30 |
| A state of contradiction [108 words] | HH | Jan 31, 2007 15:00 |
| Israel [224 words] | Abdul Khan | Jan 10, 2007 16:35 |
| Religion vs Political Ideology [236 words] | Chrissie | Dec 31, 2006 19:32 |
| israeli arabs [126 words] | jon purizhansky | Dec 29, 2006 06:30 |
| Expansion of Israeli Citizenship to Non-Resident Jews [228 words] | Frederick Bainhauer | Dec 28, 2006 07:07 |
| Avoiding the main issue [431 words] | BaderS | Dec 27, 2006 04:48 |
| ↔ sticky situation [138 words] | mark | Mar 1, 2007 11:42 |
| From docile minority to dominating Dhimmitude [56 words] | Nafata | Dec 26, 2006 13:23 |
| For everything there is a season [122 words] | Sully | Dec 25, 2006 20:39 |
A New Solution for the Palestinian Problem? [w/response] [192 words] | Tracy W | Dec 25, 2006 06:12 |
| ↔ how about an even better solution [86 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Jan 9, 2007 11:53 |
| ↔ 1967 [126 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Feb 3, 2007 05:44 |
| Some historical corrections [354 words] | JJ | Dec 24, 2006 20:25 |
| ↔ Druze--further to my previous comment [36 words] | JJ | Dec 24, 2006 22:35 |
| ↔ hitting the nails on the head [31 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Jan 11, 2007 07:45 |
| Give them money [14 words] | Octavio | Dec 24, 2006 09:04 |
| ↔ Israeli Muslims will never take money to move to majority muslim countries [80 words] | Sully | Dec 24, 2006 23:32 |
| ↔ If the Iranians nuke Israel [170 words] | Octavio | Dec 25, 2006 17:43 |
| ↔ Sully, give it a chance [58 words] | Octavio | Dec 25, 2006 17:48 |
| War, Land, and Islam [465 words] | John R | Dec 23, 2006 17:18 |
| Internal enemy is most dangerous for Israel [90 words] | Rob | Dec 22, 2006 04:49 |
| A Very Thought-provoking analysis [102 words] | TTS | Dec 21, 2006 23:03 |
| You forget the fourth,and worst, internal enemy [297 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Dec 21, 2006 17:00 |
| ↔ question? [146 words] | ahmadzafire | Dec 24, 2006 19:23 |
| ↔ Its the diaspora [562 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Dec 26, 2006 09:10 |
| ↔ Thank you!....but as you said i feel the same from a muslim point of veiw. [166 words] | ahmadzafire | Dec 26, 2006 21:46 |
| ↔ This generation of jews is the most confused ever. [212 words] | Stephen Phillips | Jan 2, 2007 16:53 |
| ↔ Agreement with essence of Yuval [73 words] | Shirley Lowenstein | Jan 3, 2007 20:22 |
| I'm Outraged by the (Jewish) Israelis' Aim to please Israeli Arabs [135 words] | Ynna (Tchkah) | Dec 21, 2006 05:53 |
Timing - Why is Israel's third enemy making itself known now? [w/response] [186 words] | David Pincus | Dec 20, 2006 23:12 |
| War By Other Means [173 words] | Lance | Dec 20, 2006 22:20 |
| Time to stem this [181 words] | Judeo-Christ | Dec 20, 2006 20:58 |
| Why are we surprised? [151 words] | Helen Freedman | Dec 20, 2006 17:44 |
| Sadly, Lieberman's partly right. [728 words] | mariana | Dec 20, 2006 14:11 |
| There is a 4th enemy. [62 words] | Jack Evans | Dec 20, 2006 13:47 |
| ↔ The New religion of North American Jewry - LIBERALISM [413 words] | Jeff Burke | Dec 22, 2006 21:24 |
| ↔ Throwing Out Israeli Arabs [195 words] | John R | Dec 25, 2006 19:52 |
| ↔ North AmericanJ. [63 words] | danica belic | Dec 26, 2006 03:41 |
| ↔ Throwing Out Israeli Arabs [225 words] | John R | Dec 26, 2006 20:27 |
| ↔ Response to John R: All Abooooard!! [257 words] | Jeff Burke | Dec 28, 2006 10:21 |
| ↔ 1 in 7 Arab Muslim Suicide Killers are Citizens - 1 More Reason for a Fleet of Buses to Start Moving [272 words] | Nabil Shawarma | Jan 12, 2007 12:49 |
| "Is Population Transfer the Solution to the Palestinian Problem—And Some Others?" [24 words] | Paul | Dec 20, 2006 12:12 |
| The Assault on Israel by Israeli Arab Judges [999 words] | Eli Weinstein | Dec 20, 2006 09:23 |
| ↔ Israeli Arab Judges [40 words] | Tracy W | Dec 25, 2006 06:27 |
| ↔ familiar sounding....... [35 words] | Kat | Jun 11, 2007 21:57 |
| Israel's Other Domestic Enemy [354 words] | Prof. Paul Eidelberg | Dec 20, 2006 05:16 |
Enemy #4 [w/response] [158 words] | Andrew | Dec 20, 2006 00:46 |
| ↔ Muslims can be given resident status but not the citizenship and voting rights ,etc because [94 words] | Goga | Dec 22, 2006 14:06 |
| ↔ Comment to Goga [136 words] | Zia | Jan 7, 2007 12:49 |
| Project Israel [67 words] | Syed Kasim | Dec 20, 2006 00:14 |
| ↔ Failure of a Project, Success of an Other [63 words] | Harrak | Dec 24, 2006 20:06 |
| Muslim problem in Israel is similar to Muslim problems in other countries like Russia , India , Thailand ,Philipines , Nigeria , France ,etc [236 words] | Bengal | Dec 19, 2006 22:43 |
| ↔ disengage [118 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Dec 24, 2006 15:57 |
| ↔ I agree [20 words] | Octavio | Dec 25, 2006 07:42 |
| ↔ Muslim problem in Israel is similar to Muslim problems in other countries [6 words] | Axe | Aug 1, 2007 11:02 |
| ↔ muslims [14 words] | Anonomous | May 4, 2008 13:50 |
| AmerIcan Jewish donations to the Mossawa Center [160 words] | Lori Lowenthal Marcus | Dec 19, 2006 20:36 |
| ↔ To Madam Lori [194 words] | Ynna-tchkah- | Jan 5, 2007 14:51 |
| ↔ Imperative Information- Thank you Lori L. Marcus. [455 words] | Ynnatchkah | Oct 30, 2007 17:01 |
| Has history changed? [114 words] | David W. Lincoln | Dec 19, 2006 19:01 |
| The Fifth Column [575 words] | rick | Dec 19, 2006 16:54 |
| Israel's Domestic Enemy [238 words] | M.D. Anthony | Dec 19, 2006 16:49 |
| Inside/Outside [194 words] | Blackspeare | Dec 19, 2006 16:21 |
| Fouth brutal choice [38 words] | stephen segal | Dec 19, 2006 15:26 |
| Exemption of Haredi from Military Service [23 words] | H R Thomas | Dec 19, 2006 15:25 |
| The enemy from within [191 words] | steven l | Dec 19, 2006 15:09 |
| Solutions to all problems of Israel : What Israel must do now ??? [1725 words] | Pandian | Dec 19, 2006 14:28 |
| ↔ Spade for a spade [34 words] | William | Dec 22, 2006 04:41 |
| ↔ Pandian , You are so right , Will Israeli Leadership listen to your suggestions ? [49 words] | Carla | Dec 22, 2006 04:45 |
| ↔ Arabs will be defeated and will start another war as soon as they are well prepared to attack [49 words] | Natasha | Dec 22, 2006 04:53 |
| ↔ Naive Jewish leaders are biggest enemies of Israel [47 words] | Herman | Dec 22, 2006 04:58 |
| Individual rights: the solution to Israel's domestic enemy [195 words] | Ralph C Whaley MD | Dec 19, 2006 13:48 |
Minor error [w/response] [65 words] | Andrew B. | Dec 19, 2006 13:29 |
| Israeli arabs [47 words] | Monty Pogoda | Dec 19, 2006 12:59 |
| The same solution from both sides? [155 words] | Pat | Dec 19, 2006 12:48 |
| The Prophet Cried And We Were Deaf [124 words] | Bozoer Rebbe | Dec 19, 2006 12:46 |
| Detailed and to the Point - As always - But will the Jews, Israeli or not, Listen? - No! [238 words] | Jeff Burke | Dec 19, 2006 12:45 |
| ⇒ My earlier warnings of this very problem [1474 words] | Dr.Steve Carol MEF Member | Dec 19, 2006 12:24 |
| ↔ Avalanche [45 words] | Blackspeare | Dec 22, 2006 11:39 |
| The arrogant imperialism of Islam [403 words] | Mark | Dec 19, 2006 11:27 |
| What's the future. [163 words] | Inna | Dec 19, 2006 11:25 |
| ↔ Moshe Feighlin is right so was the Rabbi Kahane ! [61 words] | Indian | Dec 23, 2006 06:07 |
| What's the hurry? [118 words] | joe kaffir | Dec 19, 2006 11:11 |
| Muslim Israeli Redux: Never surrender [72 words] | Mark-Alan Whittle | Dec 19, 2006 11:00 |
| "You're either with us or against us" [120 words] | Martin | Dec 19, 2006 10:58 |
| ↔ Sooner or later , Israel & other Non Muslim Countries will have serious problems with Muslims [89 words] | VJ | Dec 22, 2006 14:12 |
| ↔ muslims tell us they will destroy us. [54 words] | Phil Greend | May 16, 2007 21:21 |
| An Apology of sorts is in order...... [41 words] | Jerry Reich | Dec 19, 2006 10:38 |
| Two Israels [76 words] | Donald W. Bales | Dec 19, 2006 09:52 |
| Israel's Third and Final Enemy [414 words] | MPicow | Dec 19, 2006 09:47 |
| We're our own worst enemy... [333 words] | YochevedMiriam | Dec 19, 2006 09:43 |
| ↔ Israeli Fortitude [52 words] | Pat | Dec 22, 2006 10:34 |
| ↔ Sin made Israel give up the fight [147 words] | Stephen Phillips | Jan 2, 2007 17:21 |
| ↔ God made imperfect humans. [411 words] | Pat | Jan 4, 2007 13:34 |
| ↔ Stephen Phillips, not correct [54 words] | Joseph | Jan 28, 2007 04:58 |
| The enemy within [23 words] | Octavio | Dec 19, 2006 09:09 |
| A confessional Israel [128 words] | joe rose | Dec 19, 2006 07:59 |
| ↔ Israel [89 words] | Dr Aaron Refson | Jan 12, 2007 19:33 |