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Submitted by Thomas Justin Kaze (Australia), Oct 31, 2006 at 22:58

War on Terror – or endless dialogues?

Let us get real: we are not really fighting Islam; we are being fooled by our governments instead. Muslims are constantly advancing their own interests by applying pressure on our spineless political leaders and endlessly increase their unreasonable, if not downright outrageous, demands. They are pushing us deeper and deeper into dhimmitude and now have the cheek to claim the right to define how others should perceive and talk about them and their "religious" values – and, as expected, it has a very damaging effect on our right to speak freely.

Their right to throw curses at the "infidel" world during their Friday prayers goes on unquestioned, uncensored and unlimited; their right to plot our demise behind our backs and their incitement to spread the "religion of peace" through bombings and beheadings does not render them to prosecution, but one word of our criticism, and we are branded racists, intolerant bigots and Islamophobes. Through the imposition of such nonsensical "anti-discrimination" laws by our semi-conscious powers-that-be, our right to resist the Islamic domination is being eroded, while the hordes of invaders and terrorists (sorry – refugees) are being aided and abetted by our democratically elected politicians who charm us with their "War on Terror" slogan and all sort of assurances of national security, at the same time throwing us to our knees, by the scruffs of our necks, in the name of the fictitious multicultural harmony – in their lousy attempt to appease Muslims, as if that could save us from Islamization, slavery or death. And "Dubya" does it again – praising "Muslim contribution to the progress of the humanity".

Sure, "progress"… If you say so, Mr. President; by that "progress" you obviously mean 9/11, two Bali bombings, Madrid, London and Bombay, and all those numerous beheadings… The West is not willing to convert to Islam or to accept the domination of darkness over light, so Muslims are helping us to make up our minds faster and use all the sanctioned and justified methods of persuasion – if in doubt, just ask CAIR. There is no religion of peace but Islam, and Osama bin Laden is its prophet – or maybe even the long-awaited Twelfth Caliph (Oops – I forgot that words "nuke" and "Caliph" are now politically incorrect; maybe even racist); bombings and beheadings are mere acts of love, mercy, tolerance and religious devotion, only that we infidels are blind, misguided, intolerant, ungrateful and what not. "Fight terror, but do not harass Muslims" – ah, that sounds about right.

The French police (again) step out in great force, shaking their fists threateningly and issuing the ninety-ninth warning, while Muslim thugs yell "Allah'u akbar!" and burn, pillage and terrorize. Excuse me – what bloody War on Terror? Crazed imported jihad-preachers and homegrown irhabis march through the streets of English cities, demanding blood of those who criticize or resist Islam – and the local police protect them from the frightened, innocent public, but a man who has had enough plus a few beers under his belt expresses his objection to Islamic invasion – and gets three months in the slammer for… inciting racial hatred and intolerance. War on Terror – yeah, right.

There are no historical examples of any nation successfully fighting terrorism by a civil libertarian approach – exactly because terrorists regard such libertarianism as a sign of weakness and lack of will to fight for survival. We are forced to constantly apologize for their disadvantages, their disenchantments, their alienation – soon we will be apologizing for their fury, their violence and for our resistance to Islamization; NATO has only just apologized for shooting at Taliban's human shield and causing unavoidable collateral damages – and this sounds like (another) déjŕ vu; we are practically ready to apologize to them on demand, because that is what a good dhimmi is expected to do. Muslims have never apologized for spilling our blood, because all acts of violence against infidels benefit Islam, and we cannot expect them to condemn terrorists – that would be an insult to the religion of peace, and a Muslim must never condemn another Muslim in the face of an infidel. Also, Muslims have a different opinion on who is, or is not, a terrorist – and we have to respect the cultural differences, so demanding apology for Islamic war against us is not on as it would be cruel, insensitive and racist; and we will certainly not design toilets large enough to flush down the sacred Killing Manual, either.

And that "dialogue" thing: His Royal Highness, a "good dhimmi" Charlie now visits "Puckistan" with a promise of yet another "multi-faith dialogue" – sure, "multi". I am surprised – we have had Jewish, Hindu and Buddhist minorities living among us for decades, if not centuries, and no such "dialogues" were ever conducted or needed; why on earth do we need them now? Is there anything that our governments are not telling us about?

And how "multi-faith" are these dialogues going to be, if Judaism, Hinduism or Buddhism are never praised, promoted or even mentioned – we all know that only Islam will be preached, promoted and literally pushed down our throats, until we puke. It is obvious, to me for one, that the sole aim of such "dialogues" is to make us more passive and less resistant to the ever more aggressive and arrogant Religion of Peace. It is clear that we suddenly need these "dialogues" now, because there is a minority here that considers itself better than any other; even better than the overwhelming majority.

These "dialogues" will really be monologues conducted by Muslims telling us that, if we want to avoid terrorist attacks, we will listen to their conditions of our surrender; in the meantime, we will make all concessions in their favor, as demanded by them – and never even think of expecting them to concede in our favor (that would be preposterous). Everything against the common sense and contrary to the logic: respect for "peaceful" Muslims, promotion of "moderate" Islam as a Religion of Peace, gradual Islamization under the guise of multiculturalism, discouragement of anti-Islamic activities and turning a blind eye to the Muslim world's nuclear plans – in the name of Allah, the benevolent and the most merciful. I wonder whether the West has surrendered already, while the governments keep their citizens in the dark for the time being, so as not to cause global panic – our stubborn refusal to surrender is very offensive to Islam, and what is offensive to Islam, is offensive to its furious, impotent deity.

Only, what War on Terror is this: a war on Islam or a war on the stubborn, infidel West? Is it a war on the homicidal bearded maniacs, or just another effort to multi-culturalize us down to the level of the Seventh Century barbarians? For Heaven's sake, dear leaders; stop pretending being so tough on terrorism, while meekly appeasing Muslims and facilitating Islamization of the free; stop forcing this "reconciliation" and "dialogue" garbage upon us, just give us free hand and we will show you how to win this war for freedom.

Democracy means "the rule of the people", so there is nothing wrong with people taking the law into their own hands. So far, too many of the "anti-terror laws" appear to protect terrorists from their victims; we have not seen one Muslim terrorist sentenced to death or executed, not one Muslim protester calling for jihad on the American soil charged with incitement to murder; instead we saw people jailed for demanding expulsion of Muslims and a Secret Service agent suspended from his job for scribbling on an Islamic calendar the plain truth that "Islam is evil" – I admit that this last reminder is very personal.

Sure, Mr. President; September 11 was indeed a great contribution to the "inter-faith dialogue" and to the humanity at large: it has opened people's eyes to the peaceful nature of Islam. Yes, I do wish to sound sarcastic: I would not be very surprised to see one day the Congress disbanded and replaced by CAIR-style Council of Imams and the Sharia law imposed on the Land of the (once) Free, from Rio Bravo to Yukon. Paraphrasing the great Peter Ustinov, I dare say that super-potential for nightmares compensates for the abundance of dreams – and I will drink a pint of the forbidden sharab to that, while I can. Bottoms up, Muslims!

Thomas Justin Kaze


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A War of Public Relations [275 words]Jaisingh ThakurJul 29, 2007 08:47
reporters should live in Israel during an attack , then " shoot " their mouths off [235 words]Phil GreendJun 6, 2007 18:39
Really a state of chronic and corrosive anarchy [254 words]Jason KeuterNov 7, 2006 01:18
⇒ A War - or a Dialogue? [1415 words]Thomas Justin KazeOct 31, 2006 22:58
What's it going take ! [181 words]dfwhiteOct 23, 2006 22:37
Whats it going to take? Response to dfwhite [656 words]Faqi HussainOct 25, 2006 21:23
Reply to dfwhite: It will take something like the solutions Trufelman and I discussed (see earlier comments) [537 words]James VesceOct 27, 2006 18:30
mirror [226 words]dfwhiteOct 28, 2006 23:02
Can't we really handle them? [689 words]Thomas Justin KazeOct 23, 2006 05:26
DUBIOUS LIARS [64 words]syed mohammad aliOct 24, 2006 02:47
You've got spunk to tell it like it is - Thomas Justin Kaze [53 words]JaladhiOct 24, 2006 15:55
On the contrary Sayed.... [496 words]HomefrontOct 25, 2006 00:24
Mr. Syed Mohammad Ali [163 words]Thomas Justin KazeOct 30, 2006 00:06
The renaissance... - Thomas Justin [97 words]Ammar AhmedOct 31, 2006 22:45
France's Permanent Intifada by Islamist Muslims [123 words]GandhibaNov 1, 2006 04:43
The rules of war must also change [129 words]Salomon BenzimraOct 22, 2006 01:32
to salomon (geneva convention no longer valid ) [69 words]syed mohammad aliOct 23, 2006 03:28
Shame on us! [209 words]Burnice McLaurinOct 21, 2006 17:33
You are right [33 words]KurtlaneOct 28, 2006 03:11
A new way of War. [316 words]Gary CochranOct 21, 2006 10:27
We destroy, we invade to finish the job, and we leave it for NATO [236 words]HarrakOct 22, 2006 00:50
You're right on Oil [358 words]Gary CochranOct 23, 2006 00:14
if not [100 words]dfwhiteOct 21, 2006 01:52
PR of War [132 words]Lloyd TrufelmanOct 20, 2006 14:00
PR of War: Dan and Lloyd are on the right track [835 words]James VesceOct 25, 2006 17:22
Can west defeat islam? answer: No, because [205 words]Muhammad YunusOct 20, 2006 10:39
Anti-American American and the exaggerations made by Yunus [245 words]HarrakOct 21, 2006 11:27
Good Grief [422 words]Bryan JacksonOct 21, 2006 22:43
Can we defeat Islam? Who cares? [86 words]Kay MichelleOct 21, 2006 23:21
west need not defeat [31 words]eliasOct 23, 2006 07:36
For Muhammad Yunus [82 words]Peter HerzOct 23, 2006 16:24
Response to Bryan Jackson [3 words]Gellin and InfidellinOct 24, 2006 21:21
All Non Muslims in USA must unite for the Greater good of Humanity [116 words]SuthputraNov 2, 2006 15:00
re PR in our epoch [263 words]Jascha KesslerOct 19, 2006 13:49
Bad News & Good News [111 words]LDCOct 19, 2006 10:07
The Philippines and Ireland as addtional examples of early press influence [641 words]John BroomOct 19, 2006 09:58
I think it's more about perceived threat [202 words]NotoOct 18, 2006 22:45
Wasn't it Napoleon who said - The moral is to the physical as three to one [84 words]SullyOct 18, 2006 19:43
foolish thoughts [19 words]syed mohammad aliOct 18, 2006 15:08
foolish thoughts [301 words]Another AmericanOct 18, 2006 18:01
foolish thoughts [88 words]EdOct 18, 2006 19:40
And That is Why.... [29 words]BlackspeareOct 18, 2006 19:58
Wrong Question [301 words]Caesar M. ArevaloOct 19, 2006 00:47
Correct [11 words]Octavio JohansonOct 19, 2006 02:56
I glady deny the rights to a 'way of life' that... [664 words]CanadianChrisOct 19, 2006 13:23
Foolish thoughts Syed Mohammad Ali [812 words]JanOct 19, 2006 14:03
Deutchland Ubber Alles [64 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDOct 19, 2006 17:15
Not just foolish, ridiculous also [95 words]VinodguptOct 19, 2006 18:28
Apologies to Blackspere [79 words]Faqi HussainOct 19, 2006 21:45
Foolish thoughts, foolish question [223 words]JeffOct 19, 2006 23:32
to jan [153 words]syed mohammad aliOct 21, 2006 08:19
do you ever read the history of first crusade [130 words]syed mohammad aliOct 21, 2006 12:43
Of course you can! [96 words]Kay MichelleOct 21, 2006 23:45
response to seyd mohammad ali [234 words]Faqi HussainOct 22, 2006 01:01
Syed [102 words]Another InfidelOct 22, 2006 03:30
many muslims settled in west for earning and nothing else [90 words]syed mohammad aliOct 22, 2006 21:10
you shouldnt have the name faqi hussian [156 words]syed mohammad aliOct 22, 2006 21:18
To Syed Mohammad Ali, my goodness, are there contradictions in the Quran? [428 words]JanOct 23, 2006 05:54
Jeff, actually Syed isn't free to follow Islam, you forgot... [47 words]Kay MichelleOct 23, 2006 19:17
Feeble Reply..Syed!! [176 words]Another InfidelOct 24, 2006 01:24
To syed mohammad ali [52 words]Gellin and InfidellinOct 24, 2006 21:28
The pen is mightier than the sword [9 words]Robert ArbetmanOct 18, 2006 11:53
If it is true , we have already lost [253 words]JaladhiOct 18, 2006 11:30
If it is true, we have already lost [89 words]Another AmericanOct 18, 2006 17:20
I agree [19 words]LDCOct 19, 2006 10:12
Hope you are right- Another American [73 words]JaladhiOct 19, 2006 15:38
Hope you are right - [235 words]Another AmericanOct 20, 2006 00:09
Islam means Peace , but hear what Muslim Clerics said in their Friday Sermons in Mosques [329 words]BeniuaNov 1, 2006 04:53
Loyalty [309 words]DeanOct 18, 2006 11:16
Dr. Pipes, a small correction.
[w/response] [280 words]
MosheOct 18, 2006 10:45
Asymetric Warfare [145 words]Monte GardnerJun 3, 2008 18:42
It's the Hurons vs. the Iroquois all over again [144 words]Peter HerzOct 18, 2006 07:39
Invading the right country is also important [248 words]AaronOct 18, 2006 03:19
Propaganda and PR [232 words]Caesar M. ArevaloOct 18, 2006 00:03
EQ trumps IQ trumps experience [392 words]trans-parereOct 17, 2006 18:51
left out [310 words]dfwhiteOct 17, 2006 17:13
Old War, New War, Nuclear War and WMDs [99 words]Open BSDOct 17, 2006 16:56
Re: Op Eds Now More Central in War than Bullets [229 words]Mendl MalkinOct 17, 2006 16:00
another question.. [257 words]J.S.Oct 17, 2006 15:29
Confidence in the West [109 words]David W. LincolnOct 17, 2006 16:38
UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE RIGHT [49 words]JOHN MANITTAOct 17, 2006 14:59
"Convergence" but of another kind. [40 words]IVAN CHEROct 17, 2006 14:57
The influence of the media [183 words]muminsalihOct 17, 2006 14:45
Ironic [333 words]Mark KayeOct 17, 2006 14:19
Mark, not Ironic, your post is rather Prophetic. [98 words]MosheOct 18, 2006 06:32
"the smaller and weaker sister religion" [90 words]MosheOct 18, 2006 07:00
Ironic [6 words]Another AmericanOct 18, 2006 22:08
Jews and the whole world [312 words]trans-parereOct 19, 2006 15:41
just deserts [210 words]trans-parereOct 19, 2006 16:22
I agree with your message in General BUT you are wrong about .... [123 words]Jeff BurkeOct 20, 2006 06:29
making my point [227 words]trans-parereOct 20, 2006 16:17
Dear Trans-parere, re.:"Jews and the whole world" [296 words]MosheOct 21, 2006 17:23
anti-Christian [479 words]trans-parereOct 21, 2006 20:22
trans-parere, a lesson in history [381 words]InfidelOct 22, 2006 21:28
Anti-Christian? [140 words]MosheOct 23, 2006 04:07
And God said what? Infidel [159 words]trans-parereOct 23, 2006 17:27
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One more word on :"Jews and the whole world" [79 words]MosheOct 28, 2006 17:54
Moshe and the one opinion and the one history [371 words]trans-parereOct 28, 2006 23:40
trans-parere's flawed Jewish history [515 words]InfidelOct 29, 2006 22:24
Dear Trans-parere [283 words]MosheOct 31, 2006 09:21
Moshe [171 words]Trans-parereNov 1, 2006 00:08
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PR Vs. bullets [48 words]Dusan LipenskyOct 17, 2006 14:09
Underdogs win every modern war [240 words]PatOct 17, 2006 13:52
Well said, but is anyone listening?
[w/response] [129 words]
Rick HouseOct 17, 2006 13:29
You can't... [164 words]LDCOct 19, 2006 10:30
But what is community based upon? [122 words]David W. LincolnOct 17, 2006 13:00
the op-ed war is the most lop-sided of all [160 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDOct 17, 2006 16:29
The Black Book of Communism says otherwise. [153 words]David W. LincolnOct 17, 2006 16:47
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Dennis, your Dad... [66 words]LDCOct 19, 2006 10:19
What is right is a stronger motivator than security [797 words]CanadianChrisOct 23, 2006 11:18
I agree with you Chris ! , We need to expose the real enemy and we will see the lines of volunteers [154 words]Indian ChandraguptOct 27, 2006 23:30
Chris and Chandragupt [506 words]Trans-parereOct 29, 2006 19:37
Fundamentalism in every form is the problem [871 words]CanadianChrisNov 1, 2006 01:15

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