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The Worm Turns in Australia - The Battle of Cronulla Beach
Reader comment on item: No American Muslim Terrorists? [A Reply to Spencer Ackerman]

Submitted by Reuben Horne (Australia), Dec 12, 2005 at 15:38

Dr Pipes,

Dont expect anything other than blindness and treachery out of the media. In Australia recently the preaching has grown to a fever pitch amidst the most astounding public backlash of the last fifty years. For nigh on a decade the residents of Cronulla beach (in Sydney) people of all ethnicities had been preyed on by local Lebanese Muslim youths. The violence and abuse came to a flash point when a gang of Lebanese Muslim youths attacked two lifeguards. The public reaction was astoundingly ferocious having built up over a number of years. Bands of Australian youths roamed the streets chasing down and sometimes attacking anyone of Lebanese or indeed Middle Eastern appearance.

The police crackdown was swift and brutal but utterly ineffective given the number of people involved. An assymetric response given that later when a road train of fifty cars full of Islamic youth some 200 in number spread out around Cronulla and the surrounding area attacking men and woman of Anglo Celtic and any other extraction apart from Lebanese Muslim. One man was stabbed in the back by a Muslim who jumped from a car and stated that he would rape the man's female companions. Fortunately said attacker was driven off. They attacked and burnt cars (remember France anyone?). The police refused to even stop the Islamic road train on its rampage as the muslim youths went about smashing cars attacking civilians who tried to stop them and destroying homes. The decision to outsiders was inexplicable but some hased explanation about 200 youths being a number too great for them to handle when they were already out in force was put together. 1000 Muslims gathered outside the now infamous Lakemba mosque (I say infamous because many famous and dangerous radicals have recieved their indoctrination within its walls) to insure that any subsequent backlash didn't include burning their ignominious community center to the ground.

The Media and political response was even more disgraceful. The Australians were branded racists. Links to neonazi groups were manufactured. They pointed the finger at alcohol that was consumed by the roving gangs. Peak muslim bodies were interviewed and they danced the dance they know so well accusing us all of racism and diffusing any examination of their own actions or lack of action.

A number of observations were pertinant: Firstly the state Labor Party Governments in their longstanding tradition of preaching to the public rather than providing them with solutions were quick to take the high moral ground. This might never had happened if they had abandoned all consuming multi-kulti political correctness and done something about the gangs harrassing innocent men, women and children. The Prime Minister at least was prepared to ignore the "racism" diatribes and put it down to a law and order issue. The popularity of the riots especially amongst the beleaguered elderly residents of Cronulla is something that the media found astounding - quite conservative looking couples were shaking their bon bons for the Australian rioters.

Secondly those of us who follow this website will know of the links between Islamist and neonazi groups - just as Muslim peak bodies court the far left they've shown very little reticence indeed great initiative in their courting of the far right. They fund neonazi groups - one might add since peak Islamic bodies are able to draw upon government funding to finance some of their own exercises it would be interesting to consider how much of this money goes into the hands of neonazi extremists who attack Jewish people by proxy for the Islamists. Their anti-sematism and anti-democratic predispositions links the Islamites and the neofacists in ways that transcend their inconsequential differences. It is difficult to see this relationship disintegrating over night.

Thirdly I saw a few beer bottles at the riots in the media coverage but the rioters by and large seemed to be engaged in a relatively sober rampage. I would think that the allegations of alcoholism is something that will fuel the Islamist propaganda handing them a blank cheque for further prosletytizing. Another attempt to discredit the grievances of the rioters.

Fourthly and finally, allegations of racism are another example of the over extension of this concept as illustrated by Daniel Pipes in an earlier article. The rioters themselves rather eloquently put it with great consistency that they believed themselves to be defending the Australian way of life from Moorish invaders who had come in under the false and deletorious philosophy of multiculturalism to destroy it - and even openly advocate such goals. The racial configuration of the rioters on the Australian side of the fence varied greatly. I saw Aboriginals, Greeks and Indians teaming up with the Anglo Celts to fight a common enemy. Generational gaps were even crossed it was riot that welcomed old and young. If the activity were not so very anti-social and were something else like a peace rally it would be hailed as a triumph of Multi Cultural Australia. Under the very interesting circumstances the media saw fit to label the riot as racist. And under the broadest definition of this word - that which holds all cultures are equal and just different rather than superior and inferior along certain dimensions - one might be able to assert that racism is at work. However most people reject this definition and hold to the rather more narrow though perhaps soon to be expanded dictionary version confining it to the assertion that on race is genetically superior to another. In that case it is not racism that is operating. Just what is happening then?

Elites imposed the fallacious and unrealistic philosophy of multi-culturalism on an unwilling and non-compliant public as well as immigrants who remain substantially members of a hostile and distinct body politic (called Islam). As we can see it wasn't long before cracks began to appear in the melting pot. Though I would have preferred regime change to riots - the formation of anti-multi-kulti anti-liberal immigration poltical parties I'll take what I can get. It proves that at least there is some political will left in the Australian public that years of left wing anti nationalist brow beating hasn't been able to dislodge. I myself am an Australian of part Asian and Part Middle Eastern heritage and I look it. I have never been made to feel anything other than at home here. I know who is to blame for what is occurring having been to Sydney and hopped from one Australian enclave to the next through violent and lawless Islamic dominated suburbs. Hopefully the era of these large hostile enclaves is coming to an end.

Cordially,
Reuben Horne.

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