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Response to Dhimmi no more

Reader comment on item: Why Do You American Conservatives Keep Losing?
in response to reader comment: Our dear Amir needs to read with care!

Submitted by Amir Sani (Canada), Oct 21, 2018 at 22:56

I wrote:

"Based on your own definition if conservatism had always won since 1600s, we would still be living under autocrat monarchies and religious intolerance of the Catholic church."

And Dhimmi no more responded:

The Catholic Church? Seriously? So Henri Pirenne must be a liar. As a matter of fact he believed that the Arab invasions and the rise of Islam in the 7th century dragged Europe in the Dark ages and the Middle Ages. It was not the Germanic invasions or Christianity."

Not sure how that contradicts my statement about liberalism. Regardless of what caused the dark age in Europe, the Catholic Church was indeed the symbol of religious intolerance in Europe in 1600s. If you are talking about the Islamic world, it is still stuck in its religious intolerance because it has not embraced the ideas of classic liberalism and is sticking to its 1400-year old traditions. So your example actually confirms my point.

Dr. Pipes responded that his definition of conservatism is "supporting the traditions and adopting to new circumstances." But new circumstances are generated from new ideas, and those will not come without freeing one's mind from traditions.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Standardization versus Innovation [216 words]SteinNov 2, 2018 12:35245770
Republicans not Conservatives Control [96 words]Tom DundeeOct 25, 2018 14:11245696
So why deliver our children 'over to liberals to be inculcated' [26 words]ebOct 21, 2018 09:06245609
Conservatism of today was the liberalism of the past [100 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Amir SaniOct 18, 2018 10:13245539
Our dear Amir needs to read with care! [238 words]dhimmi no moreOct 19, 2018 06:11245539
Response to Dhimmi no more [192 words]Amir SaniOct 21, 2018 22:56245539
Our dear Amir needs to read with care! Part 2 [374 words]dhimmi no moreOct 22, 2018 14:56245539
Our dear Amir needs to read with care! Part 3 [117 words]dhimmi no moreOct 22, 2018 15:13245539
So depressing. [11 words]Mark AlexanderOct 18, 2018 02:07245529
Conservatism vs. Liberalism [30 words]Shafi RefaiOct 18, 2018 01:11245527
Our dear Shafi Refai needs to watch Jordan Peterson! [111 words]dhimmi no moreOct 19, 2018 06:27245527

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