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Our dear Amir needs to read with care!

Reader comment on item: Why Do You American Conservatives Keep Losing?
in response to reader comment: Conservatism of today was the liberalism of the past

Submitted by dhimmi no more, Oct 19, 2018 at 06:11

Our dear Amir wrote:

>Sure; liberalism has many failures: communism, fascism etc.

Seriously? Are you saying that liberalism led to communism and fascism as in cause and effect? Sobhanallah!

>It has also had many success stories: secularism, republicanism, and the flourishing of science.

Based on your own definition if conservatism had always won since 1600s, we would still be living under autocrat monarchies and religious intolerance of the Catholic church.

The Catholic Church? Seriously? So Henri Pirenne must be a liar. As a matter of fact he believed that the Arab invasions and the rise of Islam in the 7th century dragged Europe in the Dark ages and the Middle Ages. It was not the Germanic invasions or Christianity.

As a matter of fact it was Christians and Jews that translated the Greek Learning not just in the east but also in the west.

Without Nestorians in Baghdad and Jews and Christian Monks in Spain as well as literary treasures in Constantinople the works of the ancients would have been lost. Even in distant monasteries the likes of Nag Hammadi Christians were reading not only their holy books but also the works of the Greeks

Even the so called Islamic civilization it would not have been possible without the Persians/Zoroastrians

Muslims? They loved to burn books. Othman burned copies of the Qur'an and Omar ordered the burning of the books in Alexandria and Ctesiphon

Here check this

https://www.amazon.com/Mohammed-Charlemagne-Henri-Pirenne/dp/0486420116/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=6MTKY002XQXBV2BV6BKN


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Standardization versus Innovation [216 words]SteinNov 2, 2018 12:35245770
Republicans not Conservatives Control [96 words]Tom DundeeOct 25, 2018 14:11245696
So why deliver our children 'over to liberals to be inculcated' [26 words]ebOct 21, 2018 09:06245609
Conservatism of today was the liberalism of the past [100 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Amir SaniOct 18, 2018 10:13245539
Our dear Amir needs to read with care! [238 words]dhimmi no moreOct 19, 2018 06:11245539
Response to Dhimmi no more [192 words]Amir SaniOct 21, 2018 22:56245539
Our dear Amir needs to read with care! Part 2 [374 words]dhimmi no moreOct 22, 2018 14:56245539
Our dear Amir needs to read with care! Part 3 [117 words]dhimmi no moreOct 22, 2018 15:13245539
So depressing. [11 words]Mark AlexanderOct 18, 2018 02:07245529
Conservatism vs. Liberalism [30 words]Shafi RefaiOct 18, 2018 01:11245527
Our dear Shafi Refai needs to watch Jordan Peterson! [111 words]dhimmi no moreOct 19, 2018 06:27245527

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