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Conversion of Muslims to a moderate Islam or other moderate religions is the only solution

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Submitted by Prashant, Mar 16, 2018 at 17:15

Dear Dr Pipes, I must congratulate your reader Reynald de Chatillon for his brief but very well articulated letter entitled "Israel's long term survival." Mr. Chatillon has very correctly identified that Muslim populations stubbornly refuse to assimilate with the local populations. And, at least when it comes to interacting with non-Muslims, Muslims are strict followers of their religion. Their definitions of what is good, what is right, what is God, and how He should be prayed are very deeply straight-jacketed and there is little room of flexibility in those definitions.

But it is not just Israel whose long term survival is threatened. Every democratic nation where Muslims reach about 25% of population is under immediate threat. First, if the concentration of Islamic population is near the national border, they will violently demand a separate nation (as in the case of Indian Kashmir). Second, they will speak to support Islamic agenda with remarkable unity (as indicated by the views of millions of Islamic apologists all of the world). Third, in democratic elections they will vote as a single block as if no other issue except Islam matter. Fourth, they will very strongly support immigration of Muslims into the countries in which they are in minority. Consider, for example, the case of Burmese Muslims. I have heard hundreds of Indian Muslims supporting the cause of the Burmese Muslims in India but I have not heard even one Indian Muslims say that Burmese refugees can very easily be settled in the rich and extremely sparsely populated Saudi Arabia. (So, Islamic charity, starts in the non-Muslim democratic home and never enters the Islamic regions of the world), Sixth, it is well known that birth rate among Muslims in democratic societies is higher. For example, according to the Times of Israel, in 2000 the birth rate of Muslims in Israel was 4.3% while that of Jews was 2.6%. Only recently the birth rate of both Jews and Muslims in Israel has achieved a parity (3.13% in 2016). And, finally the seventh, Muslim laws of marriage between faiths are blatantly pro-Islam and extremely inflexible.

As the percentage of Muslim population increases, the above factors accelerate and take a compounding effect and the process continues until the population of Muslims reaches 98%. Historically, this phenomenon is repeated in the entire ME, in Indonesia, in Pakistan, and in Turkey and every where the Muslims have been.

So, I have no doubt that Israel's long term survival is threatened. Reynald de Chatillon mentioned that the solution of transferring Muslim populations out of Israel suggested by Meir Kahane was a plausible one. I am afraid such is not the case. You see, illegal immigration will always come to Muslim's 'rescue'. Due to their excessive focus on religion and politics, to non-democratic mind sets, to the victim-mentality and, to excessive birth rate, Muslims are usually poorer and are more willing to migrate to other countries and take the worst of the available jobs. There is no shortage of poor Bangladeshi laborers in India and there is no shortage of Halal food carts in New York waiting to be manned! So if Israel transfers its Muslim population elsewhere at 7 PM, they will be right back at 7 AM.

So what is the solution? I think the only way that can work is to convert Muslims to a moderate form of Islam and to other religions. If Muslims do not define a moderate Islam, we will have to define it for them. We will need to tell them that Islamic non-separation of church and state is absurd. We will need to tell them it is also absurd that democracy is admired by Muslims in non-Muslim societies but the favor is not returned by Muslims. We will have to highlight the hidden selfishness in Islamic laws about inter-faith marriages. We will have to say it over and over again that theocracies are illegal and wars to create future theocracies are not worthy of support, In short, every example of hypocrisy in the Islamic behavior will need to be attacked so Muslims are forced to create a moderate Islam. And we will need to define the moderate Islam for them. If this means questioning portions of Quran, so be it. And, since, freedom of thought is so precious, we will need to tell Muslims that converting out of Islam is as auspicious an event as converting into Islam because they both support human freedom of thought.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Israel's long term survival. [396 words]Reynald de ChatillonMar 15, 2018 02:13242481
2Conversion of Muslims to a moderate Islam or other moderate religions is the only solution [742 words]PrashantMar 16, 2018 17:15242481
11961: Genocidal pro-Nazi Arab leader: Ahmad Shukairy, 'father' of 'Apartheid' slander [530 words]GloriaJun 10, 2011 14:38186160
term "ethnic cleansing" is an implied accusation of racism [180 words]James GarnerMar 20, 2009 16:12152537
9A rebuttal from Obadiah Shoher [255 words]SamsonBlindedMar 14, 2009 11:53152270
3Complete and irrefuteable rebuttal to Dr. Daniel Pipes [701 words]NissimMar 10, 2009 02:48152002
Effective rebuttal. [7 words]Reynald de ChatillonMar 21, 2018 00:15152002
1The Morality of Transfer [2999 words]Boris ShusteffMar 9, 2009 19:25151974
The Author Criticizes His Interpretation of Kahane's Ideas. :) [77 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Igor LadnikMar 9, 2009 17:00151958
Transfering Israelis is just as morally reprehensible [192 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
JeremyMar 5, 2009 12:23151692
PLURALIST DEMOCRATIC ISRAEL VS ARAB-ISLAMIC APARTHEID [401 words]NancyNov 1, 2012 09:06151692
NOT IMMORAL.. [94 words]DONVANMar 2, 2009 13:05151461
The only solution for the Palestinian problem is dividing the land in two [202 words]Abe BirdMar 2, 2009 08:52151443
Why are the Palestinian Arabs (Muslims) special? [105 words]Mark GFeb 27, 2009 11:43151289
1Right of return for everyone-- Jews need to return to Mecca and Medina [100 words]samFeb 28, 2009 02:02151289
I know Why are the Palestinian Arab (Muslims) are the only special ones, Mark- Very Simple.!!!! [111 words]SvetlanatchkahMar 4, 2009 02:13151289
1FAKESTINIANS [146 words]FabianMar 25, 2012 02:08151289
Your comment precisely underlines why Jerusalem is so important to Muslims that Mecca does not represent [46 words]Karole du PontOct 7, 2012 17:08151289
Fakestinians [12 words]Reynald de ChatillonMar 15, 2018 02:21151289
1How about arab muslims removing their apartheid ? [91 words]samFeb 26, 2009 22:25151269
The first victims of Islam. [63 words]Reynald de ChatillonMar 15, 2018 02:29151269
First victims of Islam were indeed Meccans [70 words]PrashantMar 16, 2018 01:04151269
1The smart Meccan pagans v Muhammad [1172 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2018 07:51151269
Points 1-3 make sense, but Arab "outrage" is not a significant factor [155 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AaronFeb 26, 2009 19:04151262
1How about giving money to move out ? [19 words]
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samFeb 26, 2009 16:22151246
Reality Check [228 words]Rebecca MouldsFeb 26, 2009 14:41151239
Inflames? [37 words]
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meysekapeyerFeb 26, 2009 06:15151212
One state solution [15 words]KFeb 26, 2009 00:17151200
1Rebuttal [290 words]Jinn 'n' TonicFeb 25, 2009 22:11151187
Survival of a Nation [4633 words]Rochelle MichaelsFeb 28, 2009 14:26151187
1What will Mr. Pipes do if Israel actually goes along deporting Arabs [116 words]
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Debanjan BanerjeeMar 4, 2009 12:29151187
24 reasons which sound convincing... [102 words]YidlmitnfidlFeb 25, 2009 20:09151180

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