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Let us see what Q2:191 says in Arabic and it seems that Da'ish are the real Muslims

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 21, 2014 at 12:48

Our dear Zuma who does not read or write or speak Arabic has to depend on tranlations of the Qur'an

The phrase, turn them out from where they have turned you out, in Quran 2:191, Moshin Khan

So give me one single good reason why would you believe that this translation that you are using tells us indeed what the Qur'an is really saying and why not the liar Yusuf Ali or the clueless Pickthall's translations?

translation has been misinterpreted by Jihadists as turning all countries out in order to restore Islamic state since they have turned the Muslims out from the Muslim state.in many years ago. Discuss.

Well in Arabic it says

واقتلوهم حيث ثتفتموهم واخرجوهم من حيث اخرجوكم

Or and kill them (al-Tabari tells us that the subject here is al-kuffar and your Allah is speaking to his followers aka Muslims) where you thaqiftumuhum (I will leave this word untranslated because it does not have a clear meaning but al-Tabari tells us that it means اقتلوهم في اي مكان تمكنتم من قتلهم or KILL THEM anywhere where it is possible to kill them) It is not me who is saying that it is al-Tabari and here is his tafseer of this vile aya

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?flag=1&bk_no=50&surano=2&ayano=191

So it seems so far that the terrorists members of Da'ish are the real Muslims because they seem to follow your so called Allah's vile teaching

Or the rest of this part of the aya? It says

واخرجوهم من حيث اخرجوكم

Or and force them out from where they have forced you out

So you tell me did the Yazidis or the Christians in Iraq force the terrorists of Da'ish let us say that come from Pakistan or Malasyia and are memebers of this terrorist group out of their homes? Are you for real?

Oh Ibn Kathir tells us that Q2:190 was abrogated by ayat al-sayf and as for the above part of Q2:191 he agrees with al-Tabari and here if you can read Arabic which i doubt very much

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?flag=1&bk_no=49&surano=2&ayano=191

Their interpretation is entirely wrong

And you the one who cannot read Arabic have the answer Mash'allah

Why the delusions?

Oh and here is al-Qurtubi and he says that Muslims must kill their prisoners oh you do not believe here is his tafseer

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?flag=1&bk_no=48&surano=2&ayano=191

So what do the terrorist members of Da'ish do?

1. They fight and kill and get killed and this is in the Qur'an

2. They enslave women and buy them and sell them and this is in the Qur'an

3. They rape infidel women and this is in the Qur'an

4. They are telling non Muslims be it Yazidis or Christians to either convert to islam or be killed and this is in the Qur'an

5. They kill al-Rawafed (read this as al-Shi3a)

6. They loot and steal what the kuffar own and this is in the Qur'an

7. They terrorize non Muslims and this is in the Qur'an

8. They behead their prisoners and it is in the Qur'an

Da'ish members are the real Muslims

and it goes against the teaching in the book of Hadith 44:675. The following is the extracted Hadith verse for your mediation:

Why do you want me to read al-Ahadith or even believe them (so do you believe let us say hadith Rida3at al-Kabeer or the breast feeding of the adult or that Muhammad was under a black magic spell for a long time or camels urine can cure all diseases you tell me!) when I have the Qur'an and I can read al-Tabari and Ibn kathir and al-Qurtubi Tafaseer (plural of tafseer) give me a good answer

I feel sorry for you


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