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Abu Daar, enjoy something of the Jewish happiness under Islam in al-Andalus yourself !!!

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Apr 1, 2009 at 17:23

Abu Daar wrote :

< What explanation do you have about those Jews who begged the Muslim Commander in Morocco Musa bin Nusair to come and help them against the Christian King?

What explanation do you have about those Jews who begged Salah-ud-deen Ayoobi's help against the Christian Crusaders? <

Speaking about explanations, what explanations and comments do you have on the following daily realities of Jewish life under Islam in al-Andaluz ?

A Jew lived a life which under the Moslem rule meant

a/ no right whatsoever to question Islamic supremacy and his inferiority

b/ total surrender and defenseless towards the arbitrary Islamic power system

c/ have no written and confirmed rights

d/ buy your right to existance for a year at a humiliating jizya (infidelity tax) ceremony

e/ having to pay other higher taxes than the Moslems did

f/ never to speak badly about Moslems irrespective of their good or bad behaviour as this might provoke charges of blasphemy and sure death

g/ no defence against Moslem charges and defamation against Jews as no Moslem court accepts Jewish/Christian witnesses testifying against a Moslem

h/ no ability to speak openly about religion with Moslems and risking death in case of trying to persuade them of the correctness of Judaism and errors of Islam and injustice of calling Jews "monkeys" and "pigs" which is a normal Moslem way of refering to the people of the false book.

i/ remember to put on the distinctive clothes and badges as imposed by the discriminatory Islamic regulations

j/ stop dreaming of building new synagogues which is forbidden by shari'a

k/ never carry weapons and so be constantly defenseless and exposed to any danger which only encourages Moslem and other bandits to look for a Jew underway

l/ never dream of receiving anything from a Moslem . This may be soon taken from a Jew with other things which belonged to him and not the Moslem as well

m/ take heed not to have a servant who was a Moslem or has just converted to Islam. The Jew may become a slave himself of his former slave with all unpleasant consequences

o/ beware of falling in love with a Muslima and keep your Jewish daughter away from Moslem eyes as a Jew have no right to marry her as he wishes if a Moslem wants to bring her to his harem

p/ in case a Moslem beat or mistreated a Jew, stole something from him, forget about Moslem courts and justice. If a Jew tries to defend himself against a Moslem, his greed or cruelty, forget 'mercy' Moslems are so tedious about repeating. You as a Jew are lost ... unless you can bribe another Moslem to bear witness or defend you against your aggressor. But woe to you if this is revealed !

q/ Otherwise, don't be surprised that your life and human qualities and all about you are not even half worth those of a Moslem under Islam.

If after all of that you still insist on making us believe about how happy the Jews under Islam were, so I suggest you convert immediately to Judaism , emigrate to a good Moslem country ... say Saudi Arabia ... and ask its good pious rulers and inhabitants to treat you -a new born Jew - like the good pious Muslim rulers of al-Andaluz once treated the Jews - all accroding to your brilliant advice :

>Good Pious Muslim rulers KNOW the rights of Dhimmis in their countries and WILL NOT violate their rights, because of the Fear of Allah.<

You write also :

> Understand my point: (...) Help establish the Khilafaat and PEACE will be established !!!<

Agreed ... on one condition. You first convert to Judaism , live for ten years as a dhimmi in a Moslem rightly--guided ummah, come back , tell us how happy you were and then and then I and others will "help establish the Khalifaat and Peace". OK ?

Submitting....

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