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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 18, 2009 at 07:36

Thank you B and indeed very interesting analysis.

You must pardon me but I always felt that the Turks must be the most confused people in the world. Here we have a country that was built on the ruins of the Byzantine Empire. I suspect that those Turks that came from central Asia are a minority and present day so called pious Turks are no more than the decendants of the Greeks and the Armenians and the Syrians that were brutalized by the Turks and their agents the Janissaries. Those Turks that invaded the Byzantine Empire opted for an Arab religion further distancing themselves from their ethnic and religious and linguistic roots. I cannot prove it but I really do beleive that part of the confusion of the Turks stems from the fact that they are very insecure about who they are and they become very defensive when confornted with their bloody past.

I always wondered why did the Turks convert to islam and why did many of their vicitms be it Armenians or Greeks or Syrians convert to islam and abandoned their own languages be it Greek or Armenian or Syriac when we should have excepted to see the Turkish invaders converting to Christianity and become Greek or Armenian or even Syriac speakers but I would leave the answer to such question to those historians that study the history of Turkey

It is interesting to see that the Turkish state now is after the Kurds. The Kurds in Turkey helped the Ottomans in their crime of Genocide against the Armenians and the Syrians (read this as Christians) but now the Turks are turning against their own old allies

What is most amazing is that the Turks did not leave any legacy of their years of imperialism when they occupied the Levant and Egypt. The people of the Middle East never indentified themselves with either Turkey or with the Turkish language in the same manner that they embraced the Arabs that invaded the Middle East in 633CE and adopted their language and religion Islam as their own after all if you speak the language of Allah and follow the religion of Allah why would you wish to even learn Turkish or believe that those Turks that do not even speak any Arabic can represent you. And indeed the prople of the Middle east were happy to see the Turks defeated and pushed back to where they came from and no one shed any tears, Islamists included and the likes of Hasan el-Bana, about the Turkish Khalifa being out of a job

Again I suspect that self hate might be part of the reason for such crimes as the Armenian Genocide and the expulsion of more than 1M Greeks from Asia minor in 1922 and the massacre of the Greeks and Armenians in Constantinople in 1963

As for the friendship of the Turks with israel I suspect that the Truks believed that the "Jewish lobby" in the US would help them to buy arms and give them some legitimacy in the West and may be put the good word so they can join the EU

Now as per NPR it seems that Tukrey is demanding that Israel be expelled from the UN because of their recent attack on Gaza in self defense! Now compare this with the bloody past of Turkey and I incldue here the Armenian Genocide that Turkey still does not acknowledge and if a nation should be kicked out of the UN then it must be Turkey.

As for the EU: If Turkey is to join the EU then I suspect that the vicitms of the Turks, Armenians and Greeks, will line up demanding to address the past crimes of the Turks against them and the Turks will have to face their past crimes once and for all

Thank you again

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